Long time lurker, first time poster. What is this hanging down under a 1970 Chrysler Newport? It appears to be on both sides. I have tried to find pics of the undersides of other C Bodies of the same generation for reference to no avail.
1970 Chrysler Newport Question
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MattfromMaine
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Stub frame. I'm going to guess your subframe bushings are gone. You must be hearing a "clunk" going over bumps and feeling some flex. Interesting... Yours looks to be only three sides where as I've only seen them completely boxed in. I'm dealing with a '72 so maybe the '70 was different? - MG
You probably need to get the car on a drive-on overhead lift. Key thing is that it is a drive-on "muffler shop" style lift and not a "body contact" lift. Reason is that that appears to be the rear of the front subframe side piece. It should be parallel to the rocker panel and not angled down from it. Which could mean the rear body mounts on the subframe might not be there. Hope I'm wrong!
As to illustrations, you can free-download the Chrysler parts books at www.mymopar.com. Those books should have illustrations of the subframe assy and now it mounts.
Over time, the bolts which hold the body and subframe together can deteriorate and "Coke bottle" in the middle, eventually breaking. Much more common in the northern areas than in the south, by observation. Use Grade 8 bolts to replace them and the other "rear subframe bolts.
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As to illustrations, you can free-download the Chrysler parts books at www.mymopar.com. Those books should have illustrations of the subframe assy and now it mounts.
Over time, the bolts which hold the body and subframe together can deteriorate and "Coke bottle" in the middle, eventually breaking. Much more common in the northern areas than in the south, by observation. Use Grade 8 bolts to replace them and the other "rear subframe bolts.
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polara71
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It looks like channel iron to me. Something that doesn't belong there.
bronze turbine
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Yeah my guess is some kind of shoddy repair.
Possibly an old "creative" repair. I agree with the above posts that it's likely related to the stub frame and you need to get it up on a wheel lift to see what/why it's hanging down and what the intended use was. You'll probably want to correct the previous repair.
This is a pic from a lengthy and very informative thread on the stub frames. (pic courtesy @71Polara ) 1969 - 1971 C body Stub Frame (subframe)
What it looks like to me is it's a repair (probably rust) of the stub frame using a piece of channel iron. Depending how it was done would say if it was a good repair or not.
People forget that these were just used cars at one time and repairs were done as needed to get the car back in service. A good inspection of the entire stub frame is needed.
Is this your car or one you are looking at for purchase? For some reason, that looks familiar to me... Perhaps we've seen it or a similar repair.
What it looks like to me is it's a repair (probably rust) of the stub frame using a piece of channel iron. Depending how it was done would say if it was a good repair or not.
People forget that these were just used cars at one time and repairs were done as needed to get the car back in service. A good inspection of the entire stub frame is needed.
Is this your car or one you are looking at for purchase? For some reason, that looks familiar to me... Perhaps we've seen it or a similar repair.
bronze turbine
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It actually looks similar to the repair a local welder made on our '76 Newport. He said those cars always rusted out the frames on the driver's side in his experience. He said you don't want to try to cut out the rusted part of the frame, just encase it in new metal. That was his solution. It made the car inspectable and driveable for the remainder of the time we had it.
triple red
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I wouldn´t pay 6K for a car with that repair.
NOT MINE - 1970 Chrysler newport $6,000
1970 Chrysler Newport
NOT MINE - 1970 Chrysler newport $6,000
1970 Chrysler Newport
bronze turbine
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Something REALLY doesn't look right in those pictures.
I'm not trying to trash the seller, they may just not know.
Good luck with your decision. Were I a player on this one, unless the price reflected a substantial "risk discount", I;d bow out of this one.
There are better ones out there though .. i might be out at any price without more details on whatever this is...
You are correct that it IS possible seller has been bamboozled too .. experts are on this site so perhaps you may offer up this information to seller?
Again, all the best.
There are better ones out there though .. i might be out at any price without more details on whatever this is...
You are correct that it IS possible seller has been bamboozled too .. experts are on this site so perhaps you may offer up this information to seller?
Again, all the best.
I agree with Dave, looks like a channel was added to reinforce the stub frame in order to distribute weight when it's on a lift. Stub has probably let go based on the angle of the iron.
Is the car in question CE23L0C105535 ?
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It is
Not McGiver approved!!!
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