commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I was so eager to put on my Supervisors hat that I forgot something.
WhyTF is that there.
WhyTF is that there.
1970 Plymouth Sport Fury S23 4 speed car
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Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
Its a factory bracket. We spoke of this when I discovered it during the tear down of the vehicle and it was posted in the original thread.
That is a factory C-body z-bar bracket. Was it originally a 3 speed column shift car @Wollfen ? Either way, swap it! there needs to be more 4 speed fusys out there 
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
You have to. I would not worry about the input, cut the 3/4 of a inch off the front and use a pilot bearing out of a mid 90s Dodge truck, it goes into the converter pilot and no one will ever know. Would i cut the input on a 300m 18 spline hemi trans, no, but a common 23 spline sure thing.
The trans can be used again in something else you just have to always use the large pilot bearing and not the bushing, why you would ever use a bushing is beyond me. Even in a 100 point resto no one can see it.
The trans can be used again in something else you just have to always use the large pilot bearing and not the bushing, why you would ever use a bushing is beyond me. Even in a 100 point resto no one can see it.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Drill the crank.
rags
Senior Member
my converted roadster.
it is a real joy to shift.
Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
The car is a factory floor shift console car but an auto. So the bracket must have either been put on by mistake or the chassis was just on the rack at the time the car passed by on the assembly line.That is a factory C-body z-bar bracket. Was it originally a 3 speed column shift car @Wollfen ? Either way, swap it! there needs to be more 4 speed fusys out there
Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
I am considering the bearing idea yes, it certainly would be easier and input shafts can be easily replaced down the track if necessary.
Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
If I do that, I'm going to want to rebuild the whole engine, guh. Don't make me do it!
Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
Looks good, mine would have the console in it. Ohh yeaahhhh, lol.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
It would never be necessary, i i would never go back to a bushing.
Fury Man Van
Well-Known Member
you can buy an offset pilot bushing for the non drilled crank I used to get mine from napa but you will have to find an old timer and tell him what you are doing
Wollfen
Old Man with a Hat
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
To the naked eye, yes, that's what you are looking for. Looks like the one installed in mine.
Here's two versions, courtesy of Brian-wo from moparts.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
That's right, one bushing and one bearing.barbee6043
New Member
^^^So what is the difference in the two bearings??
It is not # matching, the color has been changed,.. it is worth more to most people hanged over to the 4 speed. Unless you are a millennium that has no ability to shift gears!?? lol
It is not # matching, the color has been changed,.. it is worth more to most people hanged over to the 4 speed. Unless you are a millennium that has no ability to shift gears!?? lol
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
The one on the left is a needle bearing, and the other is a brass bushing.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
That's the one I used.
brougham brummel
Well-Known Member
4 speed all the way.Manuals allow you to hold revs when you want and when backed by a powerful engine are a blast to drive.And just keep the original parts for another owner if you have to sell one day.B.B
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