commando1
Old Man with a Hat
At the dealer, my boss said to use ATF.
Damn, if he wasn't right..........
1971 Chrysler T&C 440
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Damn, if he wasn't right..........
Wow, nice find that 71 T&C with the 440! I found one of those a few years ago, and couldn't resist getting it as well. It has the 440, and just about every option available, even dual a/c. My woodgrain isn't as nice as at least the one side of yours. I put some shoe polish on the woodgrain, and it helped a lot though. Maybe I need to try the ATF. The color on my T&C is the Aztec gold. I like both colors.
Funny thing about your engine seized at least some, as after driving mine for just one 10 mile trip home, I parked it for a few months until I had time to do more to it. When I went to start it up, the engine was locked up solid! No water in the oil, so I am not sure what could have happened? Maybe a head gasket started leaking or was leaking when I bought it, and some weak coolant got into a cylinder and froze it up.
My body/paint guy also suggested painting on the woodgrain, and he showed me a sample of what he could do. I was amazed that it was really hard to tell it wasn't the Dinoc. I would like to see the woodgrain up close on the green wagon in the previous post if you have the chance.
Thanks
Funny thing about your engine seized at least some, as after driving mine for just one 10 mile trip home, I parked it for a few months until I had time to do more to it. When I went to start it up, the engine was locked up solid! No water in the oil, so I am not sure what could have happened? Maybe a head gasket started leaking or was leaking when I bought it, and some weak coolant got into a cylinder and froze it up.
My body/paint guy also suggested painting on the woodgrain, and he showed me a sample of what he could do. I was amazed that it was really hard to tell it wasn't the Dinoc. I would like to see the woodgrain up close on the green wagon in the previous post if you have the chance.
Thanks
Pete Kaczmarski
Senior Member
What I would use is Penetral. It is a mostly clear liquid for adding gloss to oil base paint. It can also be used on fiberglass to add luster and seal in the fibers. I also used it on my chocolate brown facia trim on my home. Sixteen years ago it was placed on my home. It slowly lost its medium gloss then it was done applied three years ago. My south facing home storm door was done again this year. Use a new good quality foam brush and pour it from the car into a clean old cool whip bowl. Try a incospicious spot and you be the judge.
Alas! wow, have never heard of another 71 with 440 until now. The 72 and up 440 TC seem to be more common. It's not to say that these wagon are rare or collectable, but the earlier 440 wagons are more scarce and definitely have a cool factor.
Have tried most mentioned. The nice thing about furniture polish is that it smells good. Scott's Liquid Gold smells like you are driving around a coconut when you get out of it. Lol Recently tried Old English furniture polish with same results as far sheen and longevity. Is the brazilian rosewood being reproduced for these cars? I can't see adding a clear to the completely faded wood on the right side. Thanks all!
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
You can get it any wood you want except the factory original. Some are so close, no one will notice.
Myself, I would pick something I liked better.
Several of the hundreds:
You can get it any wood you want except the factory original. Some are so close, no one will notice.
Myself, I would pick something I liked better.
Several of the hundreds:
Where's the link?
Mr C
Senior Member
From this reply, I get the impression that you think I painted OVER the woodgrain. That would be silly. The car was stripped completely, body work done and the woodgrain paint effect applied and clear coated.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Google 3M Di-noc
Thanks for the link, some are very close. I have about 20 tubes(enough to do 2 cars) of original Di-noc for my Colony Park, but is it still pliable? It looks to be, but don't know. If I go to apply the Di-noc and it fails, I'm out of luck... can't find it anymore. There are a couple of companies reproducing the Di-noc, mainly Ford, ad mentions Chrysler, have yet to look into it.
Greg B.
Senior Member
metrorestyling.com lists a Di-noc Rosewood vinyl:
I don't believe you could get much closer than that.
Mr C
Senior Member
Here's what I have...I confess my pics don't show off the effect well, I think its because my camera is older. I did the same technique when restoring the 72 Dodge D100 Adventurer SE, so I included that too. I guess you'll have to trust me that the effect is excellent without the woodgrain "negative" aspects.
That looks great! The tailgate picture looks very nice!
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
All this talk has me salivating for a wagon
Hi ther 71tc440!
Just found this thread and had to say congrats on the score of a 71 440..
With such nice people helping you, where you bought it and here I'm sure you'll find all the parts you need to get her going and looking fine in no time.
I understand the thrill of bringing an old engine back to life in the original engine bay ... but.... You may want to think about pulling it and rebuilding it properly. I only say this from experience , when I turned an engine that had similar locked lifters and pushrods.... Broken valve spring had lead to the car being in a garage for over 25 years... the same valve had slipped an d broke inside. the forced tirning lead to a damaged rod and piston....Ended up paying a lot for a complete tear down that I could have avoided had I just pulled the engine and heads out of the car... Not to mention easier given the amount of time invested in trying to turn it in place...
i have a 73 that I love and scored some rare parts and a lot of good advice here.
Welcome!
Just found this thread and had to say congrats on the score of a 71 440..
With such nice people helping you, where you bought it and here I'm sure you'll find all the parts you need to get her going and looking fine in no time.
I understand the thrill of bringing an old engine back to life in the original engine bay ... but.... You may want to think about pulling it and rebuilding it properly. I only say this from experience , when I turned an engine that had similar locked lifters and pushrods.... Broken valve spring had lead to the car being in a garage for over 25 years... the same valve had slipped an d broke inside. the forced tirning lead to a damaged rod and piston....Ended up paying a lot for a complete tear down that I could have avoided had I just pulled the engine and heads out of the car... Not to mention easier given the amount of time invested in trying to turn it in place...
i have a 73 that I love and scored some rare parts and a lot of good advice here.
Welcome!
Thanks Mr C for the close ups of the painted woodgrain. I think it looks fantastic, and that is what I am going to do with mine. I also have a 1973 Monaco wagon that is black with woodgrain, and the woodgrain on that car is not possible to duplicate in di noc woodgrain since it has different colors woven together and even has a script saying Monaco weaved into it as well. You can see from this link a little better what I am talking about (and what a fantastic wagon to boot!):
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/tag/1973-dodge-monaco/
Painting that one is the only way on this one. Your results are great! Thanks for sharing the photos.
70NPORT
Old Man with a Hat
I know exactly how you feel. I've read this thread about 3x over already while thinking about that 72' Plymouth wagon I walked away from. :tard:
70NPORT
Old Man with a Hat
X2. It's cool bringing a hibernating motor back to life, firing it up, getting her running all that, but with all those issues I would pull the motor for a total rebuild it at this point. .2
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Yeah Gary, you blew that one, nice car' close to home, reasonably priced.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Spending other people's money again...........
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