Sorted!!!
thanks to everyone for your help and advice! Short version- bad Earth.
so the faults I had were as described. Then I had more issues like the interior cabin lights not working correctly, doors closed and rear lights off but front footwell on then door open the opposite happened.
traced the ignition block feed and found a live feed from the accessory ignition feed when there shouldn’t have been.
from the shop manual traced it back from accessory to fuse box, couldn’t see anything wrong, turns out it was a broken wire under the box barely, but enough.... just touching the body.
fuse box now fully required and starts and everything works!
just need to reassemble now