'69 sport Fury Vert

[bluefury361]

if you are talking 69 models it won't be a "999" code. Just "99", "97" or "96" for special paint. "999" is a code used in 1970&up when the paint requires a three digit code on the fender tag.

999 was the special order paint code used on all 69 b-bodys.... Not sure about C-bodys.
The actual color code appeared twice as a single digit and number on mono tones, two tones received a different 2nd code.

Omaha orange as used on 68 and early 69's was replaced on or about feb 1st 69 by V2, (hemi orange) on Dodge and EK2, (vitamin C) on the plymouth. They were different colors.

Attached are a TSB and a product information bulletin

 

[69CoronetRT]

Sure is a lot of twists and turns on the 999 special codes. Very interesting.

There are for all codings. It is very difficult to make sweeping generalizations about how things were coded. That's one of the reasons on line decoders do such a poor job. It's impossible for them to cover all the nuances of fender tags.

How things were coded, when they were coded, and even where they were coded on the tag changed year to year, plant to plant and even during the model year. What may have been true at one plant at the beginning of the year may not be true for another plant at the end of the year.

 

[bluefury361]

if you are talking 69 models it won't be a "999" code. Just "99", "97" or "96" for special paint. "999" is a code used in 1970&up when the paint requires a three digit code on the fender tag.

999 was the special order paint code used on all 69 b-bodys.... Not sure about C-bodys.
The actual color code appeared twice as a single digit and number on mono tones, two tones received a different 2nd code.

Omaha orange as used on 68 and early 69's was replaced on or about feb 1st 69 by V2, (hemi orange) on Dodge and EK2, (vitamin C) on the plymouth. They were different colors.

Attached are a TSB and a product information bulletin

The Dodge versions of the 69 impact colors were Performance red....Butterscotch..... Bright green and hemi orange.

 

[bluefury361]

I believe the special order Bengal Chargers are a different shade of orange than Omaha or Vitimin C.

The BENGAL Chargers were painted in a unique color that came to be known as
"Tiger Orange".

 

[69CoronetRT]

if you are talking 69 models it won't be a "999" code. Just "99", "97" or "96" for special paint. "999" is a code used in 1970&up when the paint requires a three digit code on the fender tag.

999 was the special order paint code used on all 69 b-bodys.

Can you produce an example of a 999 paint code on either a 69 fender tag or Brodcast sheet?

The actual color code appeared twice as a single digit and number on mono tones, two tones received a different 2nd code.

Are you referring to the fender tag? How things were coded differed from plant to plant. On vinyl top cars from 69 Hamtramck, the paint code appears only once. There are few generalities when it comes to coding.

 

[bluefury361]

Are you referring to the fender tag? How things were coded differed from plant to plant. On vinyl top cars from 69 Hamtramck, the paint code appears only once. QUOTE]

[/B]Yes..... The coding on the fender tags were always consistant with corporate issues. The main difference between the assembly plants was the amount of coding included on the tag. The lynch road plant was notorius for a lack of codes stamped on the fender tag of cars assembled there. Cars assembled at the Belvedere IL plant for example usually would have most options stamped in the tag.

A mono tone or a two tone paint tag will show two codes, (on 1969's). The first being the base body color and the second being the top color. If a mono tone then both codes are the same.
A car with a vinyl top will have a code for the vinyl top and only the base color code.

 

[69CoronetRT]

A mono tone or a two tone paint tag will show two codes, (on 1969's). The first being the base body color and the second being the top color. If a mono tone then both codes are the same.
A car with a vinyl top will have a code for the vinyl top and only the base color code.

just so I'm clear as things changed year to year. Are we talking 1969? If so....

One may find only one paint code on: Hamtramck and Belvedere built cars with vinyl tops, Belvedere convertibles (or you may find two) and Windsor cars. STL built convertibles and vinyl top cars code the paint twice. LA vinyl top cars code the paint twice and the top.

What was coded on the tag, how it was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on the tag changed from year to year, plant to plant and even during the model year. That's why I find them so fascinating.

 

[commando1]

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?7811-New-Guy-68-RR-999-paint-Omaha-Orange

 

[bluefury361]

just so I'm clear as things changed year to year. Are we talking 1969? If so....
What was coded on the tag, how it was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on the tag changed from year to year, plant to plant and even during the model year. That's why I find them so fascinating.

Yes, 1969..... I used this model year because I have the reference material for 69, not so much for 70.
And codes did change from year to year.
One thing for sure about how chrysler went about things is that nothing is for sure........:yes_no:

 

[commando1]

Q: "What color is that car?"
A: "Orange...."

:rolling:

 

[69CoronetRT]

Yes, 1969..... I used this model year because I have the reference material for 69, not so much for 70.
And codes did change from year to year.
One thing for sure about how chrysler went about things is that nothing is for sure........:yes_no:

Reference material is good and can be one source of information. Even factory information changed and has mistakes. (Does anyone work in a place where people still don't make mistakes???) As with anything else...trust but verify with other credible sources.

With few exeptions, like Hamtramck Historical, most on line sites are not very good references as they do not contain original factory information and detail.

I've been researching fender tags for about 10 years and have over 6,000 on file. As I compile more and more tags from all plants and years, I find more and more sublte changes and things that just make you scratch your head as to why things were done the way they were. Yes, there were some general guidelines, but the changes in the details are astounding.

 

[polara71]

I'm out of this conversation..........

 

[detmatt]

I find the info very interesting in so much as I like decoding the tags and sheets. Some people like to do crosswords, I like decoding tags and sheets.

 

[polara71]

I find the info very interesting in so much as I like decoding the tags and sheets. Some people like to do crosswords, I like decoding tags and sheets.

O.K. now I'm in.... It is all interesting but you almost need a car to go with the tag and sheets to make the connection is some instances. Most scenarios are cut and dry but many you need a car a tag and the sheet.

 

[1978 NYB]

It is intriguing....I'm still learning new stuff when it comes codes and options.

 

[commando1]

It shows passion.

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[1978 NYB]

LOL! Someone on this Forum can say a single word about something and it'll trigger that...........I've read or remember something about that and then I'm digging through my stuff to find or figure it out.

 

[detmatt]

O.K. now I'm in.... It is all interesting but you almost need a car to go with the tag and sheets to make the connection is some instances. Most scenarios are cut and dry but many you need a car a tag and the sheet.

It is more fun when there's a car involved but it doesn't have to be mine. I used to decode for members occasionally on FBBO and FEBO but have zero spare time for that anymore. I probably spend too much time here but I've got to relax sometimes and this is my TV.

 

[69CoronetRT]

It is more fun when there's a car involved but it doesn't have to be mine. I used to decode for members occasionally on FBBO and FEBO but have zero spare time for that anymore. I probably spend too much time here but I've got to relax sometimes and this is my TV.

I thought I recognized your screen name from somewhere but couldn't place it....FBBO.

There doesn't have to be a car involved for me. I love getting numerous examples from all types of cars and looking at the differences as to how tags were coded and the changes by plants and time of year.

 

[bluefury361]

With few exeptions, like Hamtramck Historical, most on line sites are not very good references as they do not contain original factory information and detail.


I agree. The only information I will reference for this type of info is factory published TSB's, advance product bulletins, product information bulletins, (as included above), and service manuals and parts books.
The Hamtramck regestry is a great source and a large portion of their 1969 bulletins are from my collection.

I'm finding it to be a real challange to decode the 1955-1961 fender tags. There is not near as much information about those years. Any help there would be appreciated.