Any all original/survivor 68 440 TNT pics?

[Wojtek]

Started to work under the hood of my car. And I love original cars so I plan to make it look stock. So as I replace stuff I wanna know what to paint and if its black or toutquise. I even wanna put some original looking stickers if I can find some. But looking online only thing I could find was a 68 383 TNT.

Does anyone on here have a survivor/original or know of some engine bay pictures of one?

Cause even today I changed the alternator. And the metal tube spacers? supports? The short one that touches the block had a tiny bit of blue and the other was just rust covered. Are the alt mounting brackets not suppose to be black? This is why I would like some nice pictures. I looked a little in the photo garages but didn't see anything.

I found this pic in one of my original books. But would like more to go off of

 

[JC68vert300]

There is an older couple that sell reproduction decals and stickers at Carlisle every year. They are in Ohio.
Bleil’s Nostalgia Decals
8329 Dartmouth Rd.
Mentor, Ohio 44060
Cell 724-622-0846

I have a ‘68 440 but it is a Magnum, not a TNT.

 

[Wojtek]

Awesome I will look them up when I sand and paint my aircleaner.

How did you end up with a magnum?

 

[JC68vert300]

440 Magnum was the standard 350hp engine on the ‘68 300. The 440 TNT was an option. It gave 375hp along with a dual exhaust, dual snorkel , and front disc brakes with 15 inch wheels.

 

[PH27L7]

This is my old 68 Newport, original matching numbers. Previous owner put some crappy later model blue paint over the original turquoise but otherwise virtually untouched except for a new alternator. Even the radiator hoses and clamps were original. The air cleaner has crinkle paint.

 

[Davea Lux]

Engines were painted as a semi complete assembly. The intake and exhaust manifolds would have been installed as would the water pump and harmonic balancer. Spark plug brackets were installed prior to painting and so was the throttle cable bracket. All of these items were painted engine color. The secondary brackets for the alternator, power steering pump, A/C compressor brackets were painted matte black as were the pulleys and any idler pulley brackets. (Exception for Windsor produced vehicles, they would have red pulleys etc., the same as the Windsor produced engines). Kickdown linkages and choke linkage was left normal metal color. Air cleaners are a can of worms, some have the wrinkle finish, so do not, some are gloss black some are matte black. Try to match what you have for the air cleaner.. Carbs, alternators and distributors are left their normal metal color, starters are matte black.

Dave

 

[Wojtek]

440 Magnum was the standard 350hp engine on the ‘68 300. The 440 TNT was an option. It gave 375hp along with a dual exhaust, dual snorkel , and front disc brakes with 15 inch wheels.

I thought magnum was the dodge version of the TNT? Like the super commando for Plymouth

 

[Wojtek]

Engines were painted as a semi complete assembly. The intake and exhaust manifolds would have been installed as would the water pump and harmonic balancer. Spark plug brackets were installed prior to painting and so was the throttle cable bracket. All of these items were painted engine color. The secondary brackets for the alternator, power steering pump, A/C compressor brackets were painted matte black as were the pulleys and any idler pulley brackets. (Exception for Windsor produced vehicles, they would have red pulleys etc., the same as the Windsor produced engines). Kickdown linkages and choke linkage was left normal metal color. Air cleaners are a can of worms, some have the wrinkle finish, so do not, some are gloss black some are matte black. Try to match what you have for the air cleaner.. Carbs, alternators and distributors are left their normal metal color, starters are matte black.

Dave

Fuel pump would be body to then? Cause I already replaced it. The old one was fully painted blue which seemed weird.

 

[Davea Lux]

Fuel pump would be engine color, part of the semi complete engine. Most of the time some or all of the paint would peel off.

Dave

 

[PH27L7]

440 Magnum was the standard 350hp engine on the ‘68 300. The 440 TNT was an option. It gave 375hp along with a dual exhaust, dual snorkel , and front disc brakes with 15 inch wheels.

440 Magnum was the Dodge version of 375HP 440, the standard 350HP had no special name. 11" drums were standard with the 440TNT as were 14" wheels.

I took off a couple of original HP fuel pumps and recall they had no turquoise paint although it could have peeled off or be my fading memory or both.

 

[Wojtek]

440 Magnum was the Dodge version of 375HP 440, the standard 350HP had no special name. 11" drums were standard with the 440TNT as were 14" wheels.

I took off a couple of original HP fuel pumps and recall they had no turquoise paint although it could have peeled off or be my fading memory or both.

My old man questioned me painting it. Cause he recalls his cars having no paint. But most his stuff was 69-74 so he thinks it could be a pre 69 thing.

 

[pomonamissel]

my old 67 300 tnt

 

[Davea Lux]

Spark plugs were also installed prior to painting as was the oil filter.

Dave

 

[PH27L7]

Still have the original MC from my 68. Was painted black.
Mopar 67-70 drum brake master cylinder untouched original core 2660809 | eBay

 

[Mr C]

Please note the pie tins in this thread are the 69-70 style. From 66-68 they looked like this:

And I feel I need to mention the HP 440 names by division for 1968:

Imperial (360 hp) - 440 Dual
Chrysler (375 hp)- TNT
Dodge (375 hp)- Magnum
Plymouth (375hp)- Super Commando

 

[PH27L7]

Please note the pie tins in this thread are the 69-70 style. From 66-68 they looked like this:

View attachment 383896

Sorry to disagree but 66-68 all had different air cleaners with some minor overlaps. 66 is like yours. 67 has tapered snorkels with no breather hose (except CA) and 68 has the CAP with breather hose but otherwise looks like 67. 69 & 70 are different animals entirely.

 

[Davea Lux]

Sorry to disagree but 66-68 all had different air cleaners with some minor overlaps. 66 is like yours. 67 has tapered snorkels with no breather hose (except CA) and 68 has the CAP with breather hose but otherwise looks like 67. 69 & 70 are different animals entirely.

I think he meant the pie tin.

Dave

 

[JC68vert300]

I know I am correct about the hp difference and the extra features for TNT option. I assumed the Magnum for the base model, I stand corrected. Every time I think I am becoming more knowledgeable, I am shot back down to novice on this forum, LOL. Some very helpful people here. I thought my car was all original in the engine bay. Surprise, I guess the air cleaner was changed at some point. So went to take a picture to post, and another surprise for the evening...my power steering is leaking.

 

[PH27L7]

I think he meant the pie tin.

Dave

66 pie tins won't even fit on later air cleaners!

 

[CBODY67]

Isn't the tapered snorkel on the air cleaner an Imperial-only thing? The '66 and '67 air cleaners had the same style snorkels, as to their size, length, and style of the end. '68 was different, with the "inserts" and smoother entry ends. CAP usually had the take-off fittings for the breather tube to attach to.

One thing to remember on the engine paint, after the basic long block was put together, with exhaust manifolds, fuel pump, spark plugs, AND ground cable attached to the lh front intake bolt/throttle return spring bracket, that whole assembly was "fogged". The ground cable, about 6" of so from the attaching bolt, was painted, too, as it was "in the way", but NOT the whole thing. From that point, the engine went to get its "final dress" of alternator, power steering pump, distributor, carb, linkages, etc. to ready it for installation into the vehicle. The paint was there basically to prevent rust, NOT really for looks. Which is why you might find some runs on the valve covers. Making it look "too good" would be over-restoration, if that matters. Nothing was masked-off, just "fogged-on". Which would explain the paint on the fuel pump casting and not on the cad-plated areas. The hex on the spark plug and part of the ceramic, etc.

"Magnum", "Super Commando", and "TNT" (1967 and newer) were the 440/375 motors. The orig "TNT" was in '66 Chryslers, with 365horserpower and the normal 440 cam. FWIW. There was probably a divisional sales name for the 440/350, but NOT the same as the 440/375 engines.

Just some thoughts,
CBODY67