Borgeson Jeep Steer Box Upgrade - anyone done this swap yet?

[Oz Sport Fury]

Hey guys,

Looking at this Jeep steer box upgrade Borgeson for our whales, has anyone done this upgrade yet, just after some feed back on what difference it made for their cars.

Steer Box Upgrade

 

[Boydsdodge]

Yes I have done two swaps on an E-body and a B-body for clients. One promptly returned to have me install the stock firm feel set up. The box makes a pressured hydraulic sound up the steering column. On a c-body it might be better as C-bodies have the rubber isolator joint in the steering column. I would use the kit from Peter Bergman of

Bergman Auto Craft.​

BAC STEERING BOX CONVERSION KIT - LARGE SECTOR 73-82 - Bergman Auto Craft

Finally, a true 14:1 power steering box that features razor sharp response and precise feel in a small package weighing 15 lbs less than the Chrysler box

bergmanautocraft.com

 

[Oz Sport Fury]

Yes I have done two swaps on an E-body and a B-body for clients. One promptly returned to have me install the stock firm feel set up. The box makes a pressured hydraulic sound up the steering column. On a c-body it might be better as C-bodies have the rubber isolator joint in the steering column. I would use the kit from Peter Bergman of

Bergman Auto Craft.​

http://[URL]https://bergmanautocraft.com/product/borgeson-steering-box-conversion-kit-large-sector/

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Wow thats the same steer box and a lot cheaper!! thanks for the info!

 

[Xenon]

@Boydsdodge What is the advantage to using one of these...?​

Does it have the same "light touch" as the stock units..?

 

[Boydsdodge]

Quicker ratio and firmer feel. Also a bit smaller.
The BAC kit is A well thought out package for Mopar, Peter has developed the correct coupler for the shaft, so no steering columns need to be cut. Two thumbs up.

 

[65sporty]

I did this on my Father in laws 65 Sport Fury, it's in this thread. We got the kit from summit

Borgeson Universal 999066 Borgeson Power Steering Conversion Kits | Summit Racing

65 Sport Fury "Maybelline"

 

[Boydsdodge]

With the Summit kit you need to cut the steering column. No going back after that if not happy with the feel and sounds.
The Bergman Auto Craft kit is a no cut install.

 

[1970FuryConv]

I had Firm Feel rebuild my steering box to Stage II firmness. One of the best car investments for driving pleasure I have ever made. $765 for steering gear, return valve, and pitman arm. Paid on phone with VISA. Cheaper than $849 with no Pitman Arm

 

[Oz Sport Fury]

Quicker ratio and firmer feel. Also a bit smaller.
The BAC kit is A well thought out package for Mopar, Peter has developed the correct coupler for the shaft, so no steering columns need to be cut. Two thumbs up.

Been chatting to Peter last couple of days and just ordered a complete kit from him.....The Aussie dollar is crap now, cost me over $1900!!!!! Shipping was $300 incl.

 

[Boydsdodge]

I know how you feel. But Peter is a great guy to deal with.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Yes I have done two swaps on an E-body and a B-body for clients. One promptly returned to have me install the stock firm feel set up. The box makes a pressured hydraulic sound up the steering column. On a c-body it might be better as C-bodies have the rubber isolator joint in the steering column. I would use the kit from Peter Bergman of

Bergman Auto Craft.​

http://[URL]https://bergmanautocraft.com/product/borgeson-steering-box-conversion-kit-large-sector/

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Hi Boyd,
I'm working on 1966 Coronet B-body. Is this small sector shaft kit the one you used? Thanks, Ben
BAC Steering Box Conversion Kit - Small Sector 62-72 - Bergman Auto Craft

 

[Boydsdodge]

Hi Boyd,
I'm working on 1966 Coronet B-body. Is this small sector shaft kit the one you used? Thanks, Ben
BAC Steering Box Conversion Kit - Small Sector 62-72 - Bergman Auto Craft

Large sector shaft was the only difference.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Large sector shaft was the only difference.

Did you use Master Kit $1340? Worth the extra $?
BAC Steering Box Upgrade Master Kit - Bergman Auto Craft

 

[Boydsdodge]

Yes, my client bought the complete master kit so that he would have no issues with the instal.
The kit installed perfectly fine, for an after market kit it is very well put together. The only thing I remember having to do was clean some powder coating from inside the slide coupling.
If you have not bought the kit, I would go with the large sector shaft, will be easy to buy new pitman arm.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Yes, my client bought the complete master kit so that he would have no issues with the instal.
The kit installed perfectly fine, for an after market kit it is very well put together. The only thing I remember having to do was clean some powder coating from inside the slide coupling.
If you have not bought the kit, I would go with the large sector shaft, will be easy to buy new pitman arm.

Hi Boyd,
So large sector shaft will work on 1966 Coronet b-body? I thought 1966 b-body only came with small sector shaft.
Where would I source matching pitman arm?
Thanks, Ben

 

[Boydsdodge]

Hi Boyd,
So large sector shaft will work on 1966 Coronet b-body? I thought 1966 b-body only came with small sector shaft.
Where would I source matching pitman arm?
Thanks, Ben

If you are ordering the steering box with large sector shaft then you will need large sector pitman arm. Moog K7076.
Small sector shaft pitman arms are very hard to find, if you do find will be expensive