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MoPar Maniac said:
The news also said 9/11 was done by Muslims.
Are you saying it was an inside job?
Lol
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No. They said Bush was “missing” for a while and that bunker was the safe place they took him. It’s right outside Edwards AFB. I have no idea I said that’s what THEY said - not me LOL. I figured well it is a nuke bunker...

I have no real good idea of what happened that day. I was in a meeting in Mississippi. We saw the bastards drive their planes into the towers on a big screen outside our meeting at CAT facility. Then the place closed they kicked everyone out and everyone was stranded. I refused to go to the airport and turn in our crown Vic because I thought we’d be needing it to get back to Az. Nobody knew anything and being stuck in Corinth Miss we kinda missed out on all the real news. All we had was USA Today. About a week later our idiot boss said looks like the airport isn’t opening (yah think?) so we can drive home if we want. We dressed up like cops left that morning and rolled into Phoenix later that day.

No cops anywhere. We looked like govt or unmarked cops. Mid gray crown Vic dark windows.

Unlimited speed limit. That day is the fastest and longest continuous drive I’ve ever made. 125 up to 135 for hours on end. Saw one cop in Texas, I waved - he waved - I never lifted. We burnt up that crown Vic it barely ran when we dumped it at sky harbor. People were sleeping on the sidewalk waiting for rental cars. I’ve always felt like I missed the whole thing even though we flew right before it happened. Hope that clears things up.
 
It was eerie how quite it got once the airlines were grounded. Just a lone fighter jet flying a figure eight pattern from Auburn Hills to Detroit.
 
rapidtrans said:
It was eerie how quite it got once the airlines were grounded. Just a lone fighter jet flying a figure eight pattern from Auburn Hills to Detroit.
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Only planes we saw on that whole blast across 40 was over the base in Oklahoma. It was truly bizarre.
 
This jet was covering the Big 3’s H.Q.s and GM’s Tech Center.
 
The Goose said:
Now that is one very fine automobile. I love the look of that car and it looks like you’ve done a stellar job of restoring and then caring for it. Wow!!! 1982.
I’ve ran 6bbls on big block cars but never had one that was born with one OEM. That must be one wild ride.
Back in the day we had to send off to Art Pacheco at Six Pack performance in New Mexico just to get decent rebuild stuff in my neck of the woods. Not an easy task in 1982, congratulations on owning and restoring such a wonderful car.

My double AR was a real terror. It eventually succumbed to Maryland rust that was beyond repairing in 1980’s Arizona. Sad truth is the rusty cars got stripped in Arizona because we had so many nice ones. I sold mine to someone back east who said we laugh at rust back here. Well we sure didn’t in Az. I miss it but no way could I have fixed it properly back then. Your ‘cuda’s interior reminds me of a ‘71 gran coupe I had in the 80’s very very nice. My AAR had that dash but was very spartan inside with no console, no power steering, etc. I think the only thing it had extra was power disc brakes and I believe those were standard equipment. Yours looks to be loaded from the factory with some very desirable options. Being a front and rear rubber bumper car with dual painted mirrors! it has that perfect look I was trying to copy for my AAR. I painted my stock rusty bumpers lime green rather than source elastomeric ones because of the hair raising cost of original take offs. I had NOS chrome replacements to go back to but when we decided the car was too far gone to be properly restored by us I sold them to Bob Blake. He told me they were perfect for a hemicuda convertible they had at his shop. That ol guy had some marvelous cars. His 1971 hemi convertible was the first real hemi convertible I’d ever seen. I first met him on a slow day at the world of wheels and he talked to me for hours about that car. He told me it was worth about 20 thousand dollars. I decided that day 100% I’d buy a Barracuda but I also decided I’d probably never own a $20k hemicuda convertible. I bought mine a year or two later.

Talking to you about this reminds me of how many of the older guys we looked up to for advice building these things that are gone now. The 1980’s don’t always seem that long ago and then a niece or nephew will talk about the retro 80’s and it hits you just how long ago that really was. I’m sure you also miss a lot of the old hands you’ve been lucky enough to gain knowledge from over the years. It’s nice this site helps preserve a lot of that knowledge and shares it. 1970 cars will never seem old to me because I’ve always owned them. I still think of old cars as the 55 Chevys LoL!!! I know it must sound silly but I’ve been lucky to always have a 69 or 70ish car at my disposal so they just don’t that seem old to me if you can understand what I mean. I drive the 69 a lot it and it’s fun to have something I can knock around in without worrying about it being an irreplaceable gem. I’ll eventually find a 300 convertible that will get done as close to perfect as I can do. That’ll probably end up being that last car I’ll ever do so I’m happy to wait for the right one to come along.

Again Steve that’s a beautiful car.

Take care - Ed
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Thanks for all your generous comments Ed, as I appreciate them. I actually drive my Cuda more than most of my other cars. It is crazy fast.

It is clear you have had a very interesting and busy past relative to your cars.

I also agree with you that since I also have so many 70 71 Chrysler products at my place, I don't see them as old cars either despite being some 50 years old. They still seem "fresh" to me too. Even my Forward Look cars don't seem that old to me.

When you showed that photo of your friend Bob's Cuda vert with the rubber bumpers it jogged my memory and I did talk with him last year because I was inquiring about one of his cars, as he has quite a few E bodies and other cars and we are around the same age. He still is going strong though. I ended up not buying one from him since I am out of control as it is but he mentioned to me that he lost his chief mechanic helper and he was asking me whether I knew of someone who could help him with work on his cars that he needed in Arizona. I ended up getting him in contact with a guy that should have been able to help him quite a bit. I usually do most of my mechanical stuff myself and have a body/paint guy at my shop 3 to 4 days per week doing that part of the restorations.

Hope you can drop by some day and visit.

Take care,
Steve
 
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mikedrini said:
I am envisioning a giant bathtub-like plug with a chain made out of unobtanium @ricks_RR, what do you think? Maybe while we're at it, we can fill in the San Adreas Fault with quikrete?

:rofl:
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there is no need for sarcasm the earth go's thru this all the time ( time as every million years) you can take all the cars planes or what ever and it will not stop green house .
 
i'm not sure we have but its ok MT st helen let go and that sped it up 100 fold . more stuff form these natural things go into our air but we cant stop that . we can stop all the pollution from our cars and planes or what ever and its not going to stop it . the earth takes back what is hers . not looking for an argument .
 
ricks_RR said:
i'm not sure we have but its ok MT st helen let go and that sped it up 100 fold . more stuff form these natural things go into our air but we cant stop that . we can stop all the pollution from our cars and planes or what ever and its not going to stop it . the earth takes back what is hers . not looking for an argument .
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I agree 100% with you.
 
saforwardlook said:
Thats the problem, you can't see and that is not a personal insult, it is just an observation. There is much going on now in terms of fire and other events that are way out of the norm, but I guess you live in a Missouri bubble and can't see the observed evidence or just don't want to see anything that disrupts your life.

In my example you called it a personal insult but you may as well not know what caused the brush or forest fire coming towards you, so does that mean in that case you would try to do something about what you see, like evacuate in that case or not? You seem to want it both ways.

It is far easier to deny it and put it out of your mind. Even if the greenhouse gas problem had natural causes, it would still be wise to limit the part caused by man. But virtually no one in the scientific community agrees with you and neglecting the advice of the scientific community in the virus issue has led to not being able to even reasonably control it still and so we will add even more $trillions to the national debt since another stimulus will probably by needed. So much for Republicans wanting to limit govenment spending.

So it will be with the climate change issue with guys like you that just want to neglect science because you want to and not deal with it. Guys like you make us all losers.
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So stop bloviating and provide proof that Man is causing it.
I am asking for you to acknowledge actual observed scientific data and show us.
I don't wanting condescending lectures or dodging the question with platitudes.
Please show ACTUAL OBSERVED SCIENTIFIC DATA.
 
The Goose said:
No. They said Bush was “missing” for a while and that bunker was the safe place they took him. It’s right outside Edwards AFB. I have no idea I said that’s what THEY said - not me LOL. I figured well it is a nuke bunker...

I have no real good idea of what happened that day. I was in a meeting in Mississippi. We saw the bastards drive their planes into the towers on a big screen outside our meeting at CAT facility. Then the place closed they kicked everyone out and everyone was stranded. I refused to go to the airport and turn in our crown Vic because I thought we’d be needing it to get back to Az. Nobody knew anything and being stuck in Corinth Miss we kinda missed out on all the real news. All we had was USA Today. About a week later our idiot boss said looks like the airport isn’t opening (yah think?) so we can drive home if we want. We dressed up like cops left that morning and rolled into Phoenix later that day.

No cops anywhere. We looked like govt or unmarked cops. Mid gray crown Vic dark windows.

Unlimited speed limit. That day is the fastest and longest continuous drive I’ve ever made. 125 up to 135 for hours on end. Saw one cop in Texas, I waved - he waved - I never lifted. We burnt up that crown Vic it barely ran when we dumped it at sky harbor. People were sleeping on the sidewalk waiting for rental cars. I’ve always felt like I missed the whole thing even though we flew right before it happened. Hope that clears things up.
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Well....are you saying he wasn't in an elementary school classroom that day?
Lots of witnesses...
 
i would be more concerned about why the country cant get along . wish there was not so many LAWS that tell me what i cant do and people trying to take what we have worked for away . i remember when i was in school we had to go and sell pies or something for the school to make money so we could go on a field trip . now the towns cant because it is up the the government that gives the school money so because of that they cant have the kids do that . or how about sports the presidents award for the best team or student in something getting the award . but no its not fair because every body is a winner . thats not how life is . if life deals you a card and you dont like it only you can change it teach that to kids and they will learn just like we did . or I'm giving my kids what i didnt have growing up i can see how thats working in the world today . they think its a give away world and just throw away something that is good because they did not pay for it . have to have the best of everything because i did not have that when i was growing up and my kids' will have it . if you don't earn things then they don't mean anything . we need to get back to the family fundamentals and enjoy what we have in front of us God, family and friends. no matter what we do the sun will come up tomorrow so enjoy every day like its your last.
 
polara71 said:
True but we have sped up the process.
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We owe it to our children and grandchildren to minimize the impacts that we can affect. The scientists that have some clue about what they are studying indicate that this planet will become very hot relatively fast and make life really difficult. Renewable energy and focusing development of such is one way to help. No one knows whether our efforts will be enough or whether normal cyclical effects will dominate. To me at least, it makes sense to invest in them for those that come after us and maybe even still affect us significantly yet in our lifetimes. Such investments in the past are what have made this country great. Depending on one's current perspective, either MAGA or keeping it great benefits us all.

And the pressure to get my C bodies off the road will lessen to some degree - not that I contribute all that much anyway!
 
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saforwardlook said:
We owe it to our children and grandchildren to minimize the impacts that we can affect. The scientists that have some clue about what they are studying indicate that this planet will become very hot relatively fast and make life really difficult. Renewable energy and focusing development of such is one way to help. No one knows whether our efforts will be enough or whether normal cyclical effects will dominate. To me at least, it makes sense to invest in them for those that come after us and maybe even still affect us significantly yet in our lifetimes. Such investments in the past are what have made this country great. Depending on your current perspective, either MAGA or keeping it great benefits us all.

And the pressure to get my C bodies off the road will lessen to some degree - not that I contribute all that much anyway!
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You really need to start with population control. Reduce the human population to half and perhaps we can co exist with the planet or at the least extend our stay here.
The planet will exist and correct itself after we're gone. We are killing ourselves and the current inhabitants. Another million years and there's gonna be a whole bunch of other creatures here.
 
polara71 said:
You really need to start with population control. Reduce the human population to half and perhaps we can co exist with the planet or at the least extend our stay here.
The planet will exist and correct itself after we're gone. We are killing ourselves and the current inhabitants. Another million years and there's gonna be a whole bunch of other creatures here.
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I'm doing my part - I haven't fostered any humans (just CO2 gross polluters that I don't drive much). How 'bout you? :D
 
polara71 said:
You really need to start with population control.
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It could be that problem has been taking care of itself.
https://phys.org/news/2020-07-world-population-billion.html
Credit can be given to genius innovators like Norman Borlaug the father of the Green Revolution which has fed the worlds expanding population. Would Borlaug have had the opportunity to express his innovative talent in any economic system but capitalism? It is this same innovation that can help mankind adapt to any future threats.

Therein, I'd argue lies the real threat to our future which is those who in the name of socialist ideology would tear down the system that has created enormous wealth for all and reduced abject poverty to an extraordinary extent. One only has to look at the horrendous track record of socialist experiments to appreciate magnitude of this danger. Yet somehow people fail to learn from history.
 
MoPar Maniac said:
Well....are you saying he wasn't in an elementary school classroom that day?
Lots of witnesses...
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FFS !!! Read what I said. THEY - the guys who ran the bomb shelter and were turning it over to AT&T said Bush was the last President to use it. THEY told us that - holy smoke dude. I don’t give a **** where he was LoL !!!!
 
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