Carter carb

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I got a kit for my 4 lb Carter. It has two approx 1/8 thick base gaskets and one approx 5/16 gasket. When I pulled the carb, the base gasket was about 1/16 thick. Is there any benefit to which gasket is used. I pulled the carb cause I couldn't get it leaner. My tail pipes smell like raw gas and are black and somewhat sooty. Thanks for any input.
 
In the carb rebuild, you need to inspect the tops of each primary venturi to see if each of the small holes at the top of "tubes" are open and the passages under them are alco completely open. Those are calibration points for each of the carb circuits. The one which matches the solid brass tube underneath is for the idle circuit. The other one is for the main circuit. IF you block or partially decrease the size of those holes, it richens the calibration, no matter the main jet size. IF the bottom of the brass idle tube is blocked or restricted, it will lean that circuit due to a decrease in fuel flow.

On the top side, putting a small diameter solid wire into the idle bleed hole, it would make that one venturi circuit rich enough that fuel would literally drip from that one venturi.

As to the base gasket, I would recommend the thicker one with the plastic bushings in the stud holes. This way, it is a temp insulator and the bushings keep users from tightening the hold down nuts such that the baseplate might get cracked from uneven torques. Without those bushings, it can be easy to crack a baseplate. Ask me how I know.

The additional thickness might make the choke calibration a slight bit leaner, so a slight lengthening of the basic choke rod might be needed, but not very much at all.

While you have things apart, you might also verify the carb has the correct jets and they are tight.

Now, what carb is on the car?

CBODY67
 
What year and engine size is the intake and carb, the body doesn't matter much.

Do you have the factory thermostatic choke hooked up and working? Then the base gasket thickness is very important to get correct or you will change the choke adjustment and operation.
 
What year and engine size is the intake and carb, the body doesn't matter much.

Do you have the factory thermostatic choke hooked up and working? Then the base gasket thickness is very important to get correct or you will change the choke adjustment and operation.
I have the factory therm choke. Standard factory 440 4 bbl. All original and correct. I'll check that when I install carb.
 
In the carb rebuild, you need to inspect the tops of each primary venturi to see if each of the small holes at the top of "tubes" are open and the passages under them are alco completely open. Those are calibration points for each of the carb circuits. The one which matches the solid brass tube underneath is for the idle circuit. The other one is for the main circuit. IF you block or partially decrease the size of those holes, it richens the calibration, no matter the main jet size. IF the bottom of the brass idle tube is blocked or restricted, it will lean that circuit due to a decrease in fuel flow.

On the top side, putting a small diameter solid wire into the idle bleed hole, it would make that one venturi circuit rich enough that fuel would literally drip from that one venturi.

As to the base gasket, I would recommend the thicker one with the plastic bushings in the stud holes. This way, it is a temp insulator and the bushings keep users from tightening the hold down nuts such that the baseplate might get cracked from uneven torques. Without those bushings, it can be easy to crack a baseplate. Ask me how I know.

The additional thickness might make the choke calibration a slight bit leaner, so a slight lengthening of the basic choke rod might be needed, but not very much at all.

While you have things apart, you might also verify the carb has the correct jets and they are tight.

Now, what carb is on the car?

CBODY67
Thanks for the info. Been 20 years since I did a carb. Has the original carter avs. 4640 I think. I'll have to look again.
 
What part number is on the Intake? That is the part that changes the choke t-stat and the base gasket thickness.

1970 and newer takes a 1/4" thick base gasket for. Carb mounting. 1969 and older needs the thin gasket for the choke to work out right.
 
What part number is on the Intake? That is the part that changes the choke t-stat and the base gasket thickness.

1970 and newer takes a 1/4" thick base gasket for. Carb mounting. 1969 and older needs the thin gasket for the choke to work out right.
Mine had a thin type but thicker than paper. The ones in the kit are all thicker than mine. I have a new correct one in my parts cabinet.
 
When I put a '70 383-spec 2210 2bbl on my '66 Newport 383 (in 1973), it came from Holley with a thinner paper gasket. I used it at first. Had to re-torque the mounting nuts every two weeks or so. Went to the Chrysler dealer and got the thick insulator gasket. No more tightening issues after that.

I might have lengthened the choke thermostat rod, but don't recall. In TX, didn't make any difference in choking or warm-up performance that I could tell. The two slight bends are where the adjustment to lengthen the rod can be made. Just a tweak with a pair of pliers to adjust it, if needed.

Enjoy!
 
Used the 1/8 gasket in the kit and runs like a dream. Lot of stopped up ports. Sat for 20-25 years before another guy started restoring it. Half way thru he quit and I'm lucky. Thanks for the pointers
 
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