WANTED Drums for a 1967 Imperial

[Sluggo]

Hello All,

I'm looking for a set of drums (rear) for a 1967 Imp. Any help is appreciated.

I'm in Pittsburgh, PA - for what that is worth.

Doug

 

[Xenon]

@dematt

You may wish to ask dematt on here....

 

[Xenon]

detmatt

You may wish to ask dematt on here....

 

[detmatt]

I don’t have extras.

 

[hemi71x]

I have what your looking for.
How does $60.00 each, sound to you?
BUT, the shipping to you all the way across the country, is really going to be a killer.
Lotsa, $$$$$$$
If you don't have any objections to shipping costs, these days, send me a pm.
These drums weigh as much as boat anchors, for these old dinosaurs.

 

[detmatt]

How do they measure out for wear?

 

[hemi71x]

How do they measure out for wear?

Unknown.
Don't have any measuring tools to do anything like that.
Pictures show them to be not scored up.

 

[cantflip]

Unknown.
Don't have any measuring tools to do anything like that.
Pictures show them to be not scored up.

Take them to any shop that still turns drums, they will have a drum gauge and can measure them. It's too easy to do, rather than ask a fella to roll the dice on a purchase.

A KD Tools drum gauge still costs around $40 and is a handy tool for resetting the shoes during brake work. You can buy them almost anywhere, even if they aren't in stock, KD Tools is the same company as Gear Wrench. I even see that Lowes will sell them.

 

[detmatt]

Yep, I wouldn’t even consider buying used drums unless I knew they still have some life left in them.

 

[hemi71x]

Ok, guys, let me put that question to rest here, if i may.
Getting these drums out of the corner of the garage, that were at the bottom of a pile of crap that i had to move out of the way, to even get to them, to take the pictures, was a pain in the ***.
Now they are put back, in that pile, and i have no interest in digging them out again and dragging them around town, trying to find a shop that has a measuring tool getting them measured.
I don't know any mechanics in any shops, and don't know any shops that even have a brake lathe anymore.
Shops just remove and replace stuff these days.
The next time i want to ever handle these drums again in my lifetime is if somebody want's to buy them from me, then i will dig them out again.
If not, they stay where they are, and if i die next year, or whenever, the executor of my estate can clean out the pile and bring everything down the street to Schnitzers Steel, for scrap prices.
Guess i should have left them in the pile from the get go, and not even replied to the op's wanted ad.
For all that i know, somebody could be a buyer for these drums that's local to me, and have a measuring tool, to bring over, and then let him dig through the pile.
Stuff like that has happened to me before, with people seeing ads on Craigslist, or car related web sites.
You could have easily sent me a pm with your thoughts, without having to post your commentary in the op's ad.
But i do understand where your coming from.

 

[Sluggo]

Hemi71x, I appreciate the effort. I'm willing to take the risk, so long as shipping doesn't kill me.

 

[cantflip]

Ok, guys, let me put that question to rest here, if i may.
Getting these drums out of the corner of the garage, that were at the bottom of a pile of crap that i had to move out of the way, to even get to them, to take the pictures, was a pain in the ***.
Now they are put back, in that pile, and i have no interest in digging them out again and dragging them around town, trying to find a shop that has a measuring tool getting them measured.
I don't know any mechanics in any shops, and don't know any shops that even have a brake lathe anymore.
Shops just remove and replace stuff these days.
The next time i want to ever handle these drums again in my lifetime is if somebody want's to buy them from me, then i will dig them out again.
If not, they stay where they are, and if i die next year, or whenever, the executor of my estate can clean out the pile and bring everything down the street to Schnitzers Steel, for scrap prices.
Guess i should have left them in the pile from the get go, and not even replied to the op's wanted ad.
For all that i know, somebody could be a buyer for these drums that's local to me, and have a measuring tool, to bring over, and then let him dig through the pile.
Stuff like that has happened to me before, with people seeing ads on Craigslist, or car related web sites.
You could have easily sent me a pm with your thoughts, without having to post your commentary in the op's ad.
But i do understand where your coming from.

"You could have easily sent me a pm with your thoughts, without having to post your commentary in the op's ad." FWIW I was less interested in educating you, than helping the OP. Your posting was just the relevant one to reply to. We've been round this corner before, and I know you get sensitive when I comment... but since the OP has stepped up, would you please consider at least calling a few local places that probably do have a benchtop lathe and a drum gauge. I think it would only be fair to the fella rather than ask him to ship scrap iron cross country. Pep Boys always has a lathe in my experience. As far as I am concerned, anyone working on brakes for pickups in the aftermarket should have one of these tools or they're a thief. Drum brakes would not be a likely service in a European repair business, so try to stick with folks who work on pickups, where there are still lots of rear drum brakes on older models.

 

[halifaxhops]

@mobileparts

 

[cantflip]

Hemi71x, I appreciate the effort. I'm willing to take the risk, so long as shipping doesn't kill me.

Have you tried @mobileparts for NOS yet?

Also @marty mopar has been know to have drums.

Both have VG reputations.

I don't mean to step on @hemi71x , but its a long way from CA to PGH to ship something that hasn't been measured. At least his haven't been in road salt and appear to be in nice, used, condition. Better than a PA junkyard is likely to produce.

For educational purposes... Brake drums are a friction surface, they should match side to side (same manufacturer, cut depth, etc) or they can contribute to strange pulling as they go through thermal cycles. Replacing shoes or pads as an axle set is well known, but the drums or rotors are often overlooked when they are mismatched. Pulling issues are far less likely from the rear, but are still possible.

Also as they wear into a position on the same car, they tend to wear to that exact position. You should always mark one stud and corresponding hole on the drum to return it to the same place. Occasionally, when the drum has been rotated on the hub during reinstallation, an eccentric condition is created. That can be felt as a pulsation or even a brake the locks up under light pressure.

Because of previous use, there is a fair possibility that these used drums will need to be trued on a lathe to work well. Also, stored in a heap of parts, even at the bottom, may cause the drums to warp... definitely requiring they be machined. New drums should always be stored flat and, while in boxes, only stacked two high. I've seen more and more parts store geniuses stack them on end to save shelf space... this greatly increases the chances of warping, as does storing heavy items on top of them.

I am well qualified to provide this advice. I have no other industry that I am qualified to advise in (doesn't always stop me). There are only a handful of folks on this board who have done more or as many brake system diagnostics, when the job becomes more than "slap new parts on it".

 

[halifaxhops]

Totally agree. One problem now is not many brake lathes around all the old shops are gone. People mostly get new and slap them on. I remember we always put the new drums and rotors on the lath and checked them. They usually needed a slight re surfacing to true them. I am lucky here a friend just picked up a old Aamco lath and I showed him how to use it. Now I can use it any time I need to.

 

[detmatt]

I’ve bought parts from Ward(I’m assuming I was dealing with Ward and not Wally or the Beaver) and I would again, just not something I was sure wasn’t scrap.

 

[hemi71x]

Why do people that no intentions in purchasing parts have to muddy up a persons posting by putting their commentary into someones wanted ad in the first place?
Wouldn't it be safe to say if a person is interested in purchasing parts, let him ask the questions of the parts seller, instead of everybody out there in the peanut gallery putting their two cents into the posting.
I figured i might be helping the guy out when i read his ad with parts that i probably hoarded, saved, scrounged, since the 1980's.
Ya, it does piss me off when somebody has to be the self appointed police man in the for sale section, or the wanted sections of car related web forums.
Been finding out lately the last parts that i sold have gone to Finland, Sweden, Norway, so when the American's seem to be hemming and hawing, procrastinating on buying something, the Scandinavians are readily stepping up to the plate, having me send parts to shipping, container companies in Long Beach, CA. or New Jersey port cities.
I've got lot's of disc brake, drum brake, suspension parts, for the old C body cars out in the garage that i just might as well scrap instead of advertising them on this forum, trying to help somebody keeping their old dinosaur on the road with some of my old California parts that aren't rusted to death, like folks in the rust bucket states are living with, all the time.

And a FYI for you.
I'm sure the op isn't going to wind up purchasing the drums from me, after i gave him the shipping quote what it's going to cost to get those things all the way across the country.
Very heavy items, and not box's of marshmallows.

 

[cantflip]

Why do people that no intentions in purchasing parts have to muddy up a persons posting by putting their commentary into someones wanted ad in the first place?

Not your ad, so shaddup already.

Hemi71x, I appreciate the effort. I'm willing to take the risk, so long as shipping doesn't kill me.

Sorry Sluggo, I know it must be a fine surprise to find all this in your posting. I wish you luck finding the drums elsewhere, and other than having an overly sensitive nature, @hemi71x seems to have a pair with potential. If you can get him to have them measured, you may find Fastenal shipping to be worth looking at. It would require cooperation from the seller to use them, but their pricing is usually great for heavy items.

FYI, the entire lifespan of most automotive drums and rotors is .060", so without a measurement, you really have no idea what your getting. My preference would be to start at as close to original size as possible, because you most likely will need to have them turned after storage for all of that time.

Also, look at the bright side of this, every posting brings this back to the front page, where you may catch the attention of a member who can help you.

 

[78Brougham]

Hemi71x, I appreciate the effort. I'm willing to take the risk, so long as shipping doesn't kill me.

Check Fastenal for shipping they are usually pretty reasonable. I shipped a 4 cylinder engine from Dallas to PA for less than $200.
Worth a call.

 

[commando1]

The drum are nothing but scrap metal in the context of how they are being sold.
Anybody who pays to buy and ship scrap metal is


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