roadcuda
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Wow John, that was too close a call. Glad your neighbors are ok. Just curious. Is this car a full electric or hybrid? Not that it makes that much difference.
Electric Car Fire at my Neighbors
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The neighbor just stopped by. He returned the shoes he borrowed this morning. He's OK, his daughter is driving him around. His partner is still in the hospital for observation.
He also told me he went through this once before when he was 6 years old and his house burnt down.
Of course, the car was borrowed from some friend and it wouldn't start after he went into the house. I had to go over and jump start it in the pouring rain... My old jump box decided to throw in the towel in a moment of great timing just to make things a little more interesting.
He also told me he went through this once before when he was 6 years old and his house burnt down.
Of course, the car was borrowed from some friend and it wouldn't start after he went into the house. I had to go over and jump start it in the pouring rain... My old jump box decided to throw in the towel in a moment of great timing just to make things a little more interesting.
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Edit: Turns out this was a "plug-in" hybrid. It was being charged at the time.
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More pictures and the summary from the local volunteer fire departments FB page.
Note the number of VFDs from surrounding towns. Skaneateles, Fairmount, Mottville, Howlett Hill and Navarino.
This was taken from in front of my house
"Signal 99- Marcellus Fire District
At 05:59, Marcellus and mutual aid departments were dispatched to a reported house fire on Falls Road, near Frank Gay Road. Reports from dispatch indicated a house fully involved and unknown if occupants were out. Marcellus Car 1 arrived and reported a fully involved attached garage, spreading to the house and upgraded the alarm to a Signal 99. Marcellus Car 1 established command and Car 3 was assigned operations and completed a search of the residence with Navarino Car 3.
Marcellus Engine 1 arrived and placed 2 attack lines in service to extinguish fire in the garage and inside the residence. Fairmount Engine 5 arrived shortly after and advanced an additional attack line inside the residence. Crews inside pulled ceiling to expose and extinguish fire that was spreading to the attic. Mottville Engine 2’s crew was assigned to cut a hole in the roof. Once the fire was extinguished, crews began overhaul and extinguishing hot spots in the garage and front bedrooms.
Crews from all departments worked together to extinguish the fire with limited spread to the interior of the house. Howlett Hill was assigned RIT and Navarino and Skaneateles assisted with extinguishment and overhaul.
Crews operated on scene for over 3 hours. The cause of the fire is under investigation. Two occupants were transported to the hospital by Marcellus Ambulance and a cat was rescued from the residence.
Units on scene: Marcellus Engine 1 (Capt. Mathieson), Ladder 33 (FF Coon), Rescue 1 (FF Leeb), Squad 1 (FF Harris), Car 1 (Chief McNally), Car 2 (Asst. Chief Rothery), Car 3 (Asst. Chief Mayers). Fairmount Engine 5, Navarino Engine 2, Mottville Engine 2, Howlett Hill Engine 3, Skaneateles Engine 11, Marcellus Ambulance, SAVES ambulance, Onondaga County Sheriffs Department, Onondaga County Emergency Management and Fire Investigation Unit, Marcellus Fire Department Auxiliary, Marcellus Fire Police.
Photos taken by Evan Whitney, Mottville Fire Co. Photographer. Whitney Images"
Note the number of VFDs from surrounding towns. Skaneateles, Fairmount, Mottville, Howlett Hill and Navarino.
This was taken from in front of my house
"Signal 99- Marcellus Fire District
At 05:59, Marcellus and mutual aid departments were dispatched to a reported house fire on Falls Road, near Frank Gay Road. Reports from dispatch indicated a house fully involved and unknown if occupants were out. Marcellus Car 1 arrived and reported a fully involved attached garage, spreading to the house and upgraded the alarm to a Signal 99. Marcellus Car 1 established command and Car 3 was assigned operations and completed a search of the residence with Navarino Car 3.
Marcellus Engine 1 arrived and placed 2 attack lines in service to extinguish fire in the garage and inside the residence. Fairmount Engine 5 arrived shortly after and advanced an additional attack line inside the residence. Crews inside pulled ceiling to expose and extinguish fire that was spreading to the attic. Mottville Engine 2’s crew was assigned to cut a hole in the roof. Once the fire was extinguished, crews began overhaul and extinguishing hot spots in the garage and front bedrooms.
Crews from all departments worked together to extinguish the fire with limited spread to the interior of the house. Howlett Hill was assigned RIT and Navarino and Skaneateles assisted with extinguishment and overhaul.
Crews operated on scene for over 3 hours. The cause of the fire is under investigation. Two occupants were transported to the hospital by Marcellus Ambulance and a cat was rescued from the residence.
Units on scene: Marcellus Engine 1 (Capt. Mathieson), Ladder 33 (FF Coon), Rescue 1 (FF Leeb), Squad 1 (FF Harris), Car 1 (Chief McNally), Car 2 (Asst. Chief Rothery), Car 3 (Asst. Chief Mayers). Fairmount Engine 5, Navarino Engine 2, Mottville Engine 2, Howlett Hill Engine 3, Skaneateles Engine 11, Marcellus Ambulance, SAVES ambulance, Onondaga County Sheriffs Department, Onondaga County Emergency Management and Fire Investigation Unit, Marcellus Fire Department Auxiliary, Marcellus Fire Police.
Photos taken by Evan Whitney, Mottville Fire Co. Photographer. Whitney Images"
There were enough departments there to extinguish the sun! Good thing it was night.
One of the great things about living here is the community itself. These departments are all volunteer and all help each other. When they all converge on a scene like this, one department gets singled out to cover this end of the county and stays behind. The first trucks were there within 5 minutes of our call. It takes that long just to drive to the fire department, so it's really impressive.
It was at 6AM.
73Coupe
Senior Member
This is a good example of the necessity of a rated separation between an attached garage and residence. From the description it seemed like the fire went into the attic immediately.
Rated separation = wall assembly rated (by UL and state code) to withstand fire on one side for a given amount of time. One example of a one-hour wall would be (2) layers of 5/8" type X gypsum board on the garage side o/ 2x4 wood studs, and (1) 5/8" layer of gyp on the other side, w/ insulation. I like using rock wool these days.
UL Wall Assemblies, Fire Rated Wall Designs | USG
Rated separation = wall assembly rated (by UL and state code) to withstand fire on one side for a given amount of time. One example of a one-hour wall would be (2) layers of 5/8" type X gypsum board on the garage side o/ 2x4 wood studs, and (1) 5/8" layer of gyp on the other side, w/ insulation. I like using rock wool these days.
UL Wall Assemblies, Fire Rated Wall Designs | USG
3175375
Senior Member
When we had our addition built, there was specific criteria that had to be met for this reason.
This is interesting... The same builder built both their house and ours, along with a bunch of others in the neighborhood. He used to live down the road and I met him a few times before he passed, but I digress...
The attic is open to the garage in my house, and I'll bet theirs did too.
3175375
Senior Member
In our addition, they put I believe 2 fireproof or fire resistant drywall layers between the attic of the garage and the attic of the breezeway. I believe that is the current requirement for construction.
I don't know what the code is around here. Probably something similar for new construction.
3175375
Senior Member
What I found interesting is that there are HVAC intake and outlet ducts running through that wall. I guess that the approach (of putting in a fire resistant wall) is better than not. It’s not a complete barrier.
The hvac ducts should be sheet metal. Those will also have a burn through time which s usually 45 minutes or more.
If they used flex ducting, perhaps not so long.
If they used flex ducting, perhaps not so long.
73Coupe
Senior Member
I'm not sure about residential, but in commercial and institutional construction, fire dampers are placed in these locations that close when heat is sensed.
3175375
Senior Member
I don’t believe that there were any dampers installed in ours.
traintech55
Senior Member
Now you know why I always have a detached garage.
57fury440
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I'll keep driving gas powered cars.
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