Engine Paint: Chrysler Blue

[livininharrow]

1966 -1969 440 should all be turquoise.

 

[1970FuryConv]

I guess you can look at it this way...

If you paint it with the VHT it will look good. Will someone come walking up with the "I'm a Chrysler GOD" t-shirt and break your balls about it? Probably not, but I have had it happen twice when I showed my car... comments about the engine color came up and how I got it correct. Mostly because in my car's era, you can see so much of the motor. So if you plan on showing it... it will matter.

I hope that helps a little.

Regardless of whether it looks good, I won't like it. It does not match the original paint. I ordered the Petty Blue Bill Hirsch paint that you and @ayilar co-recommended.

 

[moper]

Exactly why I don't attend shows.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Bill Hirsch Paint. So is the turquoise right for 1970-1972 non-HP Big Blocks?

 

[livininharrow]

if you go to mymopar.com and go to engine paint color guide 1960-1974 it will give you all of the engine colors for all engine sizes. print it off and there you will have it. it also gives you the mopar paint part number. cheers paul

 

[ayilar]

Bill Hirsch Paint. So is the turquoise right for 1970-1972 non-HP Big Blocks?

No. See here: Engine Paint: Chrysler Blue

 

[1970FuryConv]

if you go to mymopar.com and go to engine paint color guide 1960-1974 it will give you all of the engine colors for all engine sizes. print it off and there you will have it. it also gives you the mopar paint part number. cheers paul

Hi Paul,
I went to the site and clicked on that exact line from the Resource Library. Nothing happened. Do I need to adjust a setting in my computer? Thanks Ben
Found this on FABO by Halifax Hops
1964 - 1974 Factory Engine Paint Chart

 

[ayilar]

1970 BB is Chrysler Blue. That is why I got the Bill Hirsch paint even though the manufacturer's cans and website mistakenly say it is for 1973-1983 engines. I spent a lot of time on researching the issue, I am confident that I have the answer. I am not saying to get Bill Hirsch paint necessarily, but the color is (close to?) the correct one.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Hi Wyatt @71Polara383
Since you have disagreed with 3 of my posts in this thread, but haven't commented. What do you think of the charts above and below from FABO? Both disagree with Bill Hirsch on when blue was used on small blocks. They say red through 1969. For BB, the chart below, also from FABO, shows turquoise thru 1971. Don't care if you disagree with me, as long as I learn in the process. Ben

 

[71Polara383]

To me VHT is the closest match to the original color used on 70-71 engines, and at half the cost of the other stuff it is a no brainer. Sprays nice and even. No complaints about the product, and will continue to paint my engines the "wrong" color.

 

[71Polara383]

Hirsch stuff is good but ends up too pale, however the VHT does not and ends up looking closer to the valve cover used for comparison.

I wish I had a 3rd engine in progress during this experiment to test the Mopar paint side by side with these two.

At the end of the day the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, both paints are good quality and do the job. I recommend and prefer the VHT SP126 because the availability, price, and finished result are unmatched and resembles the original look especially after its all dressed up and in the car.

Keep up the good work on the old Plymouth, its getting better and better.

 

[livininharrow]

Hi Paul,
I went to the site and clicked on that exact line from the Resource Library. Nothing happened. Do I need to adjust a setting in my computer? Thanks Ben
Found this on FABO by Halifax Hops
1964 - 1974 Factory Engine Paint Chart
View attachment 446086

not sure Ben. i printed it off a couple years ago and my computer was a piece of ****. its not likely your computer. i will try to find it and post it when i can

 

[moper]

Yup. VHT has been my go to for years. Non-performance big blocks were blue in ‘70. Same corporate blue as the 318s . Performance engines were street Hemi orange through ‘71. All engines went corporate blue after ‘71, but there were some holdovers from what I’ve seen including orange Magnum versions in several original B body cars. Again never say never but...

 

[1970FuryConv]

To me VHT is the closest match to the original color used on 70-71 engines, and at half the cost of the other stuff it is a no brainer. Sprays nice and even. No complaints about the product, and will continue to paint my engines the "wrong" color.

Thanks for the pictures and info, Wyatt.
I guess it is lunacy of me to expect the paint to match the color I can see on a valve cover now, because the color changes with heat and age. In this case it becomes a brighter blue with less gray or green tint.

Here's a 1968 big block piece that was covered with oil. Doesn't look turquoise after 43 years.

RED RIDER
Lunatic fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding, and you hold your meetings
I can hear you coming
I know what you're after
We're wise to you this time (wise to you this time)
We won't let you kill the laughter [time for vodka, laughter, and stop thinking about paint]

 

[1970FuryConv]

@ayilar
In the directions for Bill Hirsch paint it says: “wait at least 2 weeks before starting up engine. Starting up an engine where paint has not fully cured or where there is too much paint applied, may cause wrinkling of the paint.” This is the 1st time I have seen a paint that requires 2 weeks to cure.

In another place it says: is Bill Hirsch engine enamel resistant to gasoline and oil? Yes, unlike the others, Bill Hirsch engine enamel is resistant to gasoline and oil. It takes about 2 weeks after the paint has fully hardened on the engine and cured for the finished to be gas and oil resistant.

My question is: have you ever used Bill Hirsch engine enamel without waiting 2 weeks?

I had intended to spray the engine enamel on an intake manifold, install it, and install the carburetor. Then start up the car. I didn’t realize on buying the paint, that I needed to let the intake manifold sit for 2 weeks before start up.

 

[71Polara383]

@ayilar
In the directions for Bill Hirsch paint it says: “wait at least 2 weeks before starting up engine. Starting up an engine where paint has not fully cured or where there is too much paint applied, may cause wrinkling of the paint.” This is the 1st time I have seen a paint that requires 2 weeks to cure.

In another place it says: is Bill Hirsch engine enamel resistant to gasoline and oil? Yes, unlike the others, Bill Hirsch engine enamel is resistant to gasoline and oil. It takes about 2 weeks after the paint has fully hardened on the engine and cured for the finished to be gas and oil resistant.

My question is: have you ever used Bill Hirsch engine enamel without waiting 2 weeks?

I had intended to spray the engine enamel on an intake manifold, install it, and install the carburetor. Then start up the car. I didn’t realize on buying the paint, that I needed to let the intake manifold sit for 2 weeks before start up.

It was well over 2 weeks before it fired and ran.

Never tried sooner with Hirsch.

 

[1970FuryConv]

It was well over 2 weeks before it fired and ran.

Never tried sooner with Hirsch.

In 8th grade, I went to my history teacher to ask a question about a test. The answer was in the directions. Mr. Smith looked at me and said, "When in doubt, follow directions."

Time to follow his advice again.