FCA's Marchionne is in Grave health and has been replaced by Mike Manley

To get back on topic, it appears that Sergio did have active cancer in his soft tissue in his shoulder which he kept mum about and went ahead and had risky surgery to stem the activity. During the surgery, he suffered an embolism that permanently damaged his brain function, as is not expected to recover. He is on a life support machine at present and that is all that is keeping him alive. Perhaps this outcome is better than trying to suffer through active cancer.

Marchionne suffered embolism during cancer surgery, Italian report says
 
Whatever the reason or cause it looks like there will be changes within the company for the better but it is unfortunate that it had to occur this way. Most I have spoke with Dealers/Corporate alike thought Sergio did a good job and will be missed. Regarding the current investigations of the training fund scandal all I can say is if you spent one day in a Dealership you would understand the kind of mentality from the top down in regards to win at anycost and ethics be damned. I see it at the corporate level in fake sales reports and in stores who lie to the banks or swindle customers with hugi fugi contracts. Its a cesspool in a lot of ways but at least it ain’t political...we screw everyone
 
at carmine - people that know, know.

at saforwardlook - do you believe all the news you read?

hows cali these days?
 
Dobalovr said:
... fake sales reports ...
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Had an interesting chat with someone at a dealer last week concerning all the "used" cars on their lot with current licence plates. All new vehicles that have been plated by the dealer to get their numbers up. I'm sure you know the game here.
 
saforwardlook said:
To get back on topic, it appears that Sergio did have active cancer in his soft tissue in his shoulder which he kept mum about and went ahead and had risky surgery to stem the activity. During the surgery, he suffered an embolism that permanently damaged his brain function, as is not expected to recover. He is on a life support machine at present and that is all that is keeping him alive. Perhaps this outcome is better than trying to suffer through active cancer.

Marchionne suffered embolism during cancer surgery, Italian report says
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Perhaps.

The fact is that Chrysler's hourly UAW represented employees agreed were forced into to what many (myself included) consider an inhumane work schedule... Of course, I'm a well-known bleeding heart, but the fact is GM/Ford don't use these schedules. Basically it's 4/10s with a switch from pre-dawn to 3rd shift start times. Saturday's and no overtime pay. Then of course you have the entire two-tier wage/benefit issue (which GM/Ford do use, but not nearly to the extent of Chrysler).

General Holifield (yes, that's his real name, no he was not in the military) was the top UAW official in charge of bargaining on behalf of Chrysler's represented employees. He developed pancreatic cancer before all of this came to light... but...

He refused to argue against the ABC "alternative" shifts for this "brother and sisters", essentially taking the company's side. When the company made janitorial services an outsourced service, his wife was there as a silent owner of the company that won the contract. His wife was later charged with tax fraud.

...of course that came after "the General" accidentally shot her while cleaning his gun at the kitchen table.

I don't live in a 3500 sq. ft. home, and I no more clean a gun at the kitchen table with my wife walking around than rebuild a transmission in the same space.

Lots of strange stories. Lots of things that don't quite make sense. Sh*tloads of karma being delivered.
 
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70bigblockdodge said:
UAW corrupt?
Never would have thought that.
:rofl:
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The only problem with this is that it's a 30,000 ft. view. The guys at the "international" level (which is a joke because Canadian workers split off decades ago), yes... they are crooks.

But at the local level, there area a lot of very good guys dedicated to their members. Believe it or not, they often stand between a guy who gives a damn about the product and the 23-y/o temp-agency supervisor that cuts corners.

The many moving parts of this industry are one of the most nuanced things I've ever witnessed. Probably a lot like the Federal government. White and black hats. Smilin' faces. Etc.
 
tbm3fan said:
Well, here, it is called HIPAA. That means if the wife asks me how the husbands exam went I can't tell her unless I have explicit permission from the husband. The hospital cannot legally give out any information in the U.S. without explicit permission. I'm sure the Swiss are working the same way.

For example back in February I diagnosed a woman with a very probably pituitary tumor pressing on her optic chiasma resulting in visual field loss and an overall dimming of visual contrast. I tried to explain to her what I suspected without frightening her unduly. She was to call her PPO and have a MRI scheduled to scan that region. Six weeks later her daughter was in to pick something up and I asked her how her mother did. She said "did what". Mother didn't go so all I could tell the daughter was to get on Mom's case as per me immediately. Three months later Mom walked in and saw my face where upon she apologized for not going right away. Denial. Turns out the growth, as I expected, was benign and had to be removed surgically. Vision cleared.
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Seems this is privacy gone mad, shouldn't be an issue discussing health with the spouse/partner/family, wonder who the lawyers were who created such a scheme?
 
300rag said:
Had an interesting chat with someone at a dealer last week concerning all the "used" cars on their lot with current licence plates. All new vehicles that have been plated by the dealer to get their numbers up. I'm sure you know the game here.
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Dealerships are "Customers" as far as FCA is concerned. Apparently we need a steady stream of Loaner Vehicles. The Dealer you mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg. For example:

Dealer Target for the month is 75
Dealer Reaches target gets a kickback of $1200/car x 75 = $90000
Dealer is short 20 cars to reach target FCA says hey you need 20 Loaner cars for your customers here is $500 per car incentive to "help out"
Dealer moves 20 new cars from one side of the lot to the other and calls them "Loaners" that never get loaned out and have zero mileage on them
Salesguy sells unsuspecting customer "new" Loaner car for a small discount over an actual "New" car
Dealer sells less new cars next month trying to get rid of the 20 he ran last month
Rinse and Repeat

It's now 6 months later and the Dealer is swimming in Loaners and has marked them down just to get rid of them often losing money in the process...
Warranty has been running for 6 months and they do not qualify for subvented finance rates great selling feature no?
So after the $90000 + $10000 the Dealer made selling himself cars is spent offloading these reported units is he farther ahead? FCA thinks so and thanks you for your participation.

FCA gets to "report Sales Increases" that are not to real customers but looks good to shareholders....

440 Dealers in Canuckistan all doing the same to one degree or another 4000 in the USA
We are our own worst enemies so the BS going on in Detroit is no surprise to me.
 
LeBaron1973 said:
Seems this is privacy gone mad, shouldn't be an issue discussing health with the spouse/partner/family, wonder who the lawyers were who created such a scheme?
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A person can agree to have their medical information shared with another person. As simple as signing a form. My wife has tangential connections in this field.
 
Dobalovr said:
Dealerships are "Customers" as far as FCA is concerned. Apparently we need a steady stream of Loaner Vehicles. The Dealer you mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg. For example:

Dealer Target for the month is 75
Dealer Reaches target gets a kickback of $1200/car x 75 = $90000
Dealer is short 20 cars to reach target FCA says hey you need 20 Loaner cars for your customers here is $500 per car incentive to "help out"
Dealer moves 20 new cars from one side of the lot to the other and calls them "Loaners" that never get loaned out and have zero mileage on them
Salesguy sells unsuspecting customer "new" Loaner car for a small discount over an actual "New" car
Dealer sells less new cars next month trying to get rid of the 20 he ran last month
Rinse and Repeat

It's now 6 months later and the Dealer is swimming in Loaners and has marked them down just to get rid of them often losing money in the process...
Warranty has been running for 6 months and they do not qualify for subvented finance rates great selling feature no?
So after the $90000 + $10000 the Dealer made selling himself cars is spent offloading these reported units is he farther ahead? FCA thinks so and thanks you for your participation.

FCA gets to "report Sales Increases" that are not to real customers but looks good to shareholders....

440 Dealers in Canuckistan all doing the same to one degree or another 4000 in the USA
We are our own worst enemies so the BS going on in Detroit is no surprise to me.
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True. But...

It happens out in Vegas happens in Moline
On the blue blood streets of Boston
Up in Berkeley and out in Queens
And it went on yesterday and it's going on tonight
Somewhere there's somebody ain't treatin' somebody right.

And Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, up in Hiroshima, Seoul, and out in Beijing!
 
Carmine said:
A person can agree to have their medical information shared with another person. As simple as signing a form. My wife has tangential connections in this field.
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Fair enough, was told when I moved to NZ that the law prevented my medical and dental surgeries from requesting my records from my previous ones in adelaide. How is this helping me when as the person whose privacy is being protected, I can't request such a thing?

Changing topics, how is the restoration of the old Packard site at East Grand Boulevard going? I saw the trash and asbestos had been removed from the site but no recent updates.
 
At the Proving Ground we worked Monday-Thursday 9 hours and 8 hours on Friday. The following week we worked Monday-Thursday 9 hours. Friday off. So every other week we had a 3 day weekend.

Until 9/11....

When the wars ramped up we were working 12 hour days 7 days a week. Two shifts. Testing was going 24 hours a day.

Time and a half for union contractors for any hours worked past 80 hours for the 2 week work period.

I was in management. They figured out what our hourly rate would be and paid us that straight hourly wage for EVERY hour we worked. No one complained....better to get paid something instead of being forced to work all those hours on our base salary.
 
LeBaron1973 said:
Changing topics, how is the restoration of the old Packard site at East Grand Boulevard going? I saw the trash and asbestos had been removed from the site but no recent updates.
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Who knows?! No sane person has gone near that place in decades, lol. Probably infested with hipsters now.
 
Dobalovr said:
Dealerships are "Customers" as far as FCA is concerned. Apparently we need a steady stream of Loaner Vehicles. The Dealer you mentioned is only the tip of the iceberg. For example:

Dealer Target for the month is 75
Dealer Reaches target gets a kickback of $1200/car x 75 = $90000
Dealer is short 20 cars to reach target FCA says hey you need 20 Loaner cars for your customers here is $500 per car incentive to "help out"
Dealer moves 20 new cars from one side of the lot to the other and calls them "Loaners" that never get loaned out and have zero mileage on them
Salesguy sells unsuspecting customer "new" Loaner car for a small discount over an actual "New" car
Dealer sells less new cars next month trying to get rid of the 20 he ran last month
Rinse and Repeat

It's now 6 months later and the Dealer is swimming in Loaners and has marked them down just to get rid of them often losing money in the process...
Warranty has been running for 6 months and they do not qualify for subvented finance rates great selling feature no?
So after the $90000 + $10000 the Dealer made selling himself cars is spent offloading these reported units is he farther ahead? FCA thinks so and thanks you for your participation.

FCA gets to "report Sales Increases" that are not to real customers but looks good to shareholders....

440 Dealers in Canuckistan all doing the same to one degree or another 4000 in the USA
We are our own worst enemies so the BS going on in Detroit is no surprise to me.
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I mentioned no names, but obviously you know who I am referring to. Must be the same kind of "inventory" on their sister lots.
 
saylor said:
at carmine - people that know, know.

at saforwardlook - do you believe all the news you read?

hows cali these days?
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All the articles I posted were just news reports, and both seem to be correct at this point in time. The "complication" that took him out was indeed a blood clot as I and others speculated. The reason for the surgery was cancer. So whats the problem?
 
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Just heard that he passed...R.I.P.
 
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