Fuselage rainwater leak

Great timing. I have had quite a bit of water coming into both front floor pans of my '72 Monaco Wagon. So far I have removed all the covers and vents and cleaned everything out. I have sprayed water until nothing but clean water comes out. After putting the vents back in I am still getting a dribble from the seam right in front of where the fresh air vents are bolted up. On my car the factory or dealership installed a good amount of "Dum Dum" on each side. I've cleaned it off to pinpoint the source of the leak and it is the same on both sides. I am hoping some new dum dum pressed into this area will make it watertight.

My question is who sells this dum dum? The stuff I use to have was in a brink. You pulled off what you needed and formed it like putty. I was looking on line and I only see it as a rope seal now?

Dave
Don't know if it's the same or not, but we use this stuff in the electrical trade to seal off conduits, available at your local Home Depot.

Gardner Bender Duct Seal - 1Lb Pugs | The Home Depot Canada
 
Thanks from the reviews it does sound very similar. Eapecially if it stays pliable.

If I can't find what I am looking for I will pick some up. I might pick some up anyway just to have.

Thank you!

Dave
 
Here's the spot I was referring to, I just pulled the fender off today. This car ('71 Newport) had the same symptoms as you describe only on the passenger side though. The small raised portion below the rectangular opening (vac lines ATCTWO) no roman numerals on phone, sorry, is the main culprit though there are a couple other small spots underneath the heater tubes.
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On the rh side, the a/c case CAN be a culprit, although both sides might indicate the kick panel seal against the cowl vents.

The a/c case (if equipped) is "plastic"/fiberglass. There is a rubber gasket that seals the two halves. The bolts that hold it together use slide-on "nuts" the bolts screw into. The slide-on clips go on one side and the rubber gasket is placed over them. As I understand it, there is no "drip pan" to direct condensate/water to the drain tube, so the bottom seam gasket is the main sealing area, other than the gasket for the case to the cowl.

When the bolts are torqued, the gasket is stiff enough that it usually will NOT conform to seal the edges of the clips, so there can be seeps there, that will later drop to the rh carpet and soak it under a rubber floor mat (OEM or similar) without it being noticed.

Before I knew of this issue, I was at the local dealer one day and a lady's '69 Fury had been resealed THREE times, with poor results each time. I thought it might be poor work, but when I later looked, as our '72 Newport had a similar issue, it was the way things were designed to work. A softer case gasket that would better conform to the clips would go a long way toward fixing the problem. As would dabs of silicone sealer on the edges of the clips before the case halves were installed together. Or a thin bead of silicone, smeared over the sealing flange, before the normal gasket is laid against it at the time of installation Several ways to do that. Might even just do the bottom half of the case rather than apply the sealer all around it.

Thanks for all of the tips of places to look! I'll be chasing this issue on my '70 Monaco in the future.

CBODY67
 
Thanks from the reviews it does sound very similar. Eapecially if it stays pliable.

If I can't find what I am looking for I will pick some up. I might pick some up anyway just to have.

Thank you!

Dave

The "dum dum" most shops use is the old "strip caulk" or "rope caulk" from 3M. White or black, as I recall. Might check with local paint/body shop supply places. Over time, it can dry out some, as it has "oil" in it. The strips can be made into a ball or whatever works.

CBODY67
 
My cowl was full of water! I unplugged the drain with a long plastic stick, it was full of muck and then I did the same behind the fenders and water drains freely when I pour water at either side of the cowl, though it still may be collecting where those hidden drains are, but at least it is a big improvement.
 
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