Intermittent Heat Help -1965 Imperial Crown

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Here’s images from the 68 FSM.

Fury big block
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Fury small block
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Belvedere and Satellite big block

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Belvedere and Satellite small block

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Does the car have a "heater control valve"? It's a valve that regulates the flow of hot coolant into the heater core. My old Volvos had these valves, a lot of cars in the mid-60s had them, made by Ranco. On the Volvo, the valve mounted on the cowl on the passenger side under the hood. There was a thin copper line and a bulb (thermocouple) coming off the valve and ran right on to the heater core.

The idea is this: when you set the temp slider to a specific place/setting, the heater core heats up, and the bulb tells the valve how warm the core is, relative to the setting desired at the slider. The valve has a bi-metal spring inside which opens/closes to allow or constrict flow, in order to maintain the temperature you've selected. The valve has a range of...I forget...something like 5 degrees F. So when you set the slider, the valve keeps the temp where you set it, and if the temp drops below that setting, the valve opens for more hot coolant flow to the heater core. If the car is running warmer, the valve will close off the flow to the core. These Ranco valves do go bad, and there is one guy out there somewhere who actually rebuilds them. He's a crabby old crank to be sure.

The drawings show something they are calling a "Water valve assembly", which sounds suspiciously like a heater control valve. I imagine you could bypass the valve, which would bring hot coolant to the heater core 100% of the time, which probably wouldn't be good in the warm months. I did this on my Volvo, and when I used the heater it was fine, never go too warm in the car. In summer, I had a bypass set up underhood which bypassed the heater core altogether.
 
Might check temp with heat gun at water outlet

Having similar problem with 2010 ram

I think thermostat is weak

Never reaches temp and then drops off then warm again

I’m going to try to replace stat
 
Okay, so here is a thought from out in left field. I have had it happen where a head gasket leaks just enough pressure to cause the heater core to slightly pressurize and lose or reduce water flow. Given that you said your coolant was "foamy", which can be a head gasket tell tale sign, I leave the concept with you to review. Obvious no, had experience with it, yes.
 
Coolant is at proper level. What's the "burping" procedure ... where do I pat it :)
drain the system & if u can put in a filling T then when u c anti-freze comng out th T CAP I & FILL THE RADIATOR & IT HOULD BE FULL IF U CANT PUT IN A T RUN THE CAR @ FAST IDLE TILL ALL THE AIR OUT OF THE SYSTEM ON SOME SYM IT CAN B A PAIN
 
I have a 68 Plymouth service manual and there’s obviously no Imperial references in there.

However, it’s easy to swap the hoses, so I recommend that you do that and report back your findings.
A lively forum topic ...good to see all the great feedback. So I was able to finally check out the hoses. From all that I've seen here and from my own research on the routing, I was 99% convinced that my hoses were switched down at the water pump. I made the swap, and did so w/out too much mess. But I did lose some antifreeze, and would have to add it back. My owners manual has a picture showing the amount of coolant that there needs to be in the radiator. I went to look at it, and while there I saw a small picture showing the engine bay for my car ...it was tiny but w/ a magnifier I was able to see that indeed my hoses were 100% wrong at the water pump, w/out a doubt. Anyway made the test run ...and gentlemen we did it. The heater operated like a champ, just as the Chrylser team intended it to in 1965. It got really hot and stayed strong. All the controls worked correctly, temp controls, everything .... and I'm a happy camper ...a warm happy camper :) Thanks to all for chiming in.
 
A properly functional Mopar heater is a beautiful thing - like big hair dryer on full blast. I've never had a modern car that can compare.
 
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