stubs300
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I would much rather see this the having a Chevy 350 stuffed in there, I say well done!
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MarPar
Meat Man with a Hat
does it run and is it still available??
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Thats right, hence my statement that the engine likely came from an A. An E body even in the 80s wasnt likely to surrender a 340 unless the body was toasted.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Sure they're overrated by todays standards. So why stop at the 360? Why not a 6.4 ?
Ive had a 340 one the rails of a Polara. Ive also had a 360 under the hood of a 71 Polara . That 340 pulled a lot harder than the 360. Granted, the 360 was only a 2 barrel and I know the 360 can be mean, lord knows Ive been its biggest supporter on this board. I cant be so nonchalant about this as you are "Moparmat"
The 340 needs to be between the rails of a machine similar to what it came out of. That is from a purists point of view.
The Mustang needs a Ford engine between the rails, that is from a purists point of view.
Moparmat2000
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I dunno, i guess i am nonchalant about it then. Its really their car to do as they want to it. Would i swap a non mopar engine into a mopar for my own ride? probably not. Thats not to say i cant look at it and say hey thats kinda cool. I have seen chevy powered dodge pickups in my local boneyard while looking for engine parts. Like i said, that car is not hurt, it can be put back to stock without too much effort.
Yes the 340 pulls hard, and can beat a big block in the quarter mile. But barely. As the 340 starts running out of steam thats when a 440 magnum is just hitting its stride.
As far as comparing what sounds to me like a nice little 340 to a 2bbl 360 is really an unfair comparison. You mentioned that yourself so i wont delve into it except to say the 360 can be built to be as good or better than a 340. And as a stroker engine even more so.
As far as the 6.4L goes. I am not interested in reengineering my car for a new age hemi. I prefer mopar small blocks, and 5 bolt valve covers. Now my son may end up wanting a new age hemi. By the time we start on his project he may want one of those, or an LS engine. Its his car, i will help him build it his way. A ford explorer 8.8 disc brake rear with a locker will be out back on my sons car. 8.75s have gotten too expensive to build. I built mine on a budget and lots of swap n trading and still have $1200 in it. Furd xploder sport trak 8.8 disc brakes 3.73 gears and a locker are all standard. As is a 5 bolt 4&1/2" bolt circle. All for about $200 out of the boneyard. Not mopar, but inexpensive and very strong.
Yes the 340 pulls hard, and can beat a big block in the quarter mile. But barely. As the 340 starts running out of steam thats when a 440 magnum is just hitting its stride.
As far as comparing what sounds to me like a nice little 340 to a 2bbl 360 is really an unfair comparison. You mentioned that yourself so i wont delve into it except to say the 360 can be built to be as good or better than a 340. And as a stroker engine even more so.
As far as the 6.4L goes. I am not interested in reengineering my car for a new age hemi. I prefer mopar small blocks, and 5 bolt valve covers. Now my son may end up wanting a new age hemi. By the time we start on his project he may want one of those, or an LS engine. Its his car, i will help him build it his way. A ford explorer 8.8 disc brake rear with a locker will be out back on my sons car. 8.75s have gotten too expensive to build. I built mine on a budget and lots of swap n trading and still have $1200 in it. Furd xploder sport trak 8.8 disc brakes 3.73 gears and a locker are all standard. As is a 5 bolt 4&1/2" bolt circle. All for about $200 out of the boneyard. Not mopar, but inexpensive and very strong.
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I wonder if this is all a joke... and it's a Photoshopped engine in the Mustang. It is April fools...
polara71
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Moparmat2000
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Its ok to agree to disagree. There is the possibility that the mopar the 340 was originally removed from was wrecked beyond repair, or was truk lagoon rusty. Nobody here knows what condition the mopar was in that the 340 was plucked out of, so everything is pure speculation.
Why not just look at it the way the builder probably did. I got this nice mustang vert, and no driveline, i got this nice mopar 340 and trans, from the measurements it will fit. I look at it this way he must have felt that 340 was gonna motivate it much better than a 351. And again that car aint hurt. It can be easily reengined with a ford driveline if the new owner really wants to do that.
Why not just look at it the way the builder probably did. I got this nice mustang vert, and no driveline, i got this nice mopar 340 and trans, from the measurements it will fit. I look at it this way he must have felt that 340 was gonna motivate it much better than a 351. And again that car aint hurt. It can be easily reengined with a ford driveline if the new owner really wants to do that.
stubs300
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And a 32 Ford needs a Chevy 350 along with everything else, that is from a narrow minded purist point of view. NOT!
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
I'm curious if anybody here has actually driven a 351-4V Cleveland with a 4 speed toploader? I have as a very good friend had a mustard colored fastback. A hell of an engine and it really impressed me one day when we ran it uphill almost triple the speed limit of 35.
As for selling this I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole and don't know any other Ford guy who would.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
polara71 talks about how hard it is to find a 340. Guess how hard it is to find a 351-4V Cleveland and a toploader?
Of course in his description he says he has the Ford driveline.
So since it wasn't missing then WTH was he thinking then???
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
A lot of yakkity yak discussing something that never should have been done in the first place. I don't care how many "ifs" are thrown in the equation, it still should not have been done. Period. Dumb, dumb, dumb....
crv
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Well, yes I have driven a 351 4V Cleveland/toploader. Not in a Mustang, but in my old Ford Falcon XA GT coupe, a beast of a car. Nobody likes seeing this sort of thing, Fords with Ford engines, Chevrolets with Chev engines and so on, as it was intended, the comment was tongue in cheek.
This is a photo of the GT.
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polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Any Ford engine , who cares what the hell the size is, not a Mopar engine.
If you look long and hard enough you can find anything
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Not sure what you're saying there....
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Gee thanks.... and for the record again...again...again.... I've said the likelihood of it being pulled from an A body..... who knows.... a 340 belongs in a A or E body as it was built. Of course the speculation is there of what where why and if.
stubs300
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Okay, so is this right or wrong? I for one can really dig this, but it's a Mopar in a Ford!
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
It's all subjective based on simple opinions. .but if I see a cross breeding of anything I hate it
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
There's cross breeding that I can live with and probably would even do myself.
Chevy into a Jaguar.
Ford into a Mazda
Buick V6 into a Jeep.
These make sense because keeping them pure is usually a disadvantage. Many times it increases value.
There is no need to bastardize FoMoCos, GMs, and Mopars.
Chevy into a Jaguar.
Ford into a Mazda
Buick V6 into a Jeep.
These make sense because keeping them pure is usually a disadvantage. Many times it increases value.
There is no need to bastardize FoMoCos, GMs, and Mopars.
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