live4theking
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Great job Alan!!! Cograts!!!
On one of the outings I thought I heard some noise coming from the brakes but forgot about it, while out on my little tour I had the window down and I could definitely hear something. As I left one of the last stops I punched the brakes a few times and everything seamed to work and the noise went away. At first I thought it might have been a piece of gravel up in the disc brake backing so I pulled the front left and checked it, clean.
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So on to the left rear just to be sure.
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Wasn't sure what came apart first but the piece the cable was crimped to was ground smooth where the cable went so no looking at it there.
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Just to be sure I pulled the other wheel and looked at it, there the cable came unhooked and was about to break at the top.
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This really got me wondering what the heck? I went and got a new set of adjusting parts and had my mechanic friend come by and look at it. He felt the spring above the adjuster screw could be a little tighter and moved one end to a different hole and he felt I didn't have them adjusted out enough to start with, that still didn't explain why the cables came unhooked, even if the adjuster cam out the cable should stay hooked.
So we pulled it all apart and looked over all the pieces and when we were putting it back together we were having a hard time keeping the cable in the cable guide so we pulled it to look at closer, on both side the guides had a flat spot near the apex that the cable could slip off. The cheep China parts looked to have tooling marks on them probably from a flaw in their machine punching them out. We both agreed that the v-groove channel on those and even the new ones we just got were not very deep, maybe half the cable, so we took some time to dig through the bucket of old parts to see if I had any OLD ones. In luck I had a box of brae parts off my Barracuda with a couple with a nice grove. All back together win a much better idea how much to adjust the brakes at first.
This obviously didn't just happen and I'm glad I found it when I did, I'll be using the old guides till the cables cut them in two.
Alan
Great job on everything again. Glad you found the brake problem, I have always hated when those damn adjusting cables break.On one of the outings I thought I heard some noise coming from the brakes but forgot about it, while out on my little tour I had the window down and I could definitely hear something. As I left one of the last stops I punched the brakes a few times and everything seamed to work and the noise went away. At first I thought it might have been a piece of gravel up in the disc brake backing so I pulled the front left and checked it, clean.
View attachment 125547
So on to the left rear just to be sure.
View attachment 125548
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Wasn't sure what came apart first but the piece the cable was crimped to was ground smooth where the cable went so no looking at it there.
View attachment 125550
Just to be sure I pulled the other wheel and looked at it, there the cable came unhooked and was about to break at the top.
View attachment 125551
This really got me wondering what the heck? I went and got a new set of adjusting parts and had my mechanic friend come by and look at it. He felt the spring above the adjuster screw could be a little tighter and moved one end to a different hole and he felt I didn't have them adjusted out enough to start with, that still didn't explain why the cables came unhooked, even if the adjuster cam out the cable should stay hooked.
So we pulled it all apart and looked over all the pieces and when we were putting it back together we were having a hard time keeping the cable in the cable guide so we pulled it to look at closer, on both side the guides had a flat spot near the apex that the cable could slip off. The cheep China parts looked to have tooling marks on them probably from a flaw in their machine punching them out. We both agreed that the v-groove channel on those and even the new ones we just got were not very deep, maybe half the cable, so we took some time to dig through the bucket of old parts to see if I had any OLD ones. In luck I had a box of brae parts off my Barracuda with a couple with a nice grove. All back together win a much better idea how much to adjust the brakes at first.
This obviously didn't just happen and I'm glad I found it when I did, I'll be using the old guides till the cables cut them in two.
Alan
Seems like you get more defective new parts than ever before. No matter who you buy them from.this type of thing happens all the time. it's gotten tough being in the repair business when there's so few ways of offering a customer quality replacement parts. i'm to the point of where i don't trust anything anymore.
The original parts I used were clean not the rusted ones seen in the picture. The rusted ones will be saved for use (after cleaning) down the road if needed.Yeah... I could see not noticing that minor but critical flaw upon assembly. You could potentially correct the new guides with some work with a cold chisel, vise grips, and/or hammer to shape the channel. But, better and easier to revert to using the original parts!