This is a game changer. More options and easier to source parts.
New C-Body Spindles for Disc Brakes.
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This is a game changer. More options and easier to source parts.
Now all we need is for someone besides the ChiComs to repop the Bendix boosters.
Dave
Dave
pomonamissel
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i've heard this before , this guy does good and bad . and won't fix the bad . so i've heard . ramman from texas .
Wonder where these are made?
Metal clergy is something I fear when it comes to any aftermarket safety components
Metal clergy is something I fear when it comes to any aftermarket safety components
I can envision Black Sabbath holding a church service....
But I digress...
It looks to me that he is just having the generic spindle that he (and probably others) sell drilled to use the C-body ball joint.
Are they good? I dunno, but I haven't heard of a repop spindle failure. It's all made off shore these days and the horror stories of using "Chinese" steel has been more of an old wive's tale than actual fact.
Unfortunately it makes be a wives tale for some, but I've seen some photos recently of some caliper brackets that failed.
I also just sent two trailers back to the manufacturers that became banana shaped when loaded..
But have you seen or heard of failed forged spindles? That is the question. Not defending the product, just trying to get the facts. Mild steel used in a trailer is like comparing apples and oranges.
Most the steel used these days in US made products is made off shore.
When it is all you can easily buy, you roll the dice... after finding/buying/shipping, cleaning up a used spindle, I'm sure there's been more than one that was "tweaked" by an old crash or had metal fatigue from it's former life...
I agree with you 100%, just pointing out that this will thrill a lot of folks who desire a conversion and would likely be the only way a professional shop would want to play... pass the new part liability on to the supplier of the part vs take on the responsibility of a used part.
I remain a skeptic after all of the drama a quick internet search brings to the surface... but the guy is doing stuff that isn't so easy for most folks to find.
A short story, third hand from some coworkers who were sent to an aftermarket auto repair business management class...
A small shop chose to install a customers supplied junkyard part (a steering knuckle at that), later on the part failed in traffic and caused a fatality. Because the shop didn't have a "chain of custody" (or a receipt) allowing them to pass the buck on the failure to another supplier, they were granted full liability for the part. The underinsured small business and possibly the owner were bankrupted by the liability case...
This example was used to explain why a pro business should never allow customer supplied parts to be installed, but probably also could be used to explain the function of proper liability insurance and creating any business as an LLC.
Wayne Brown is kind of ummm... eccentric... I don't think he does well with customers. I was once told he had a bad motorcycle accident where he had some brain damage. I don't know if that's true or not. I have watched a few of his YouTube videos and he has some good info that he shares. Decidedly not real high on the touchy-feely customer service scale.
There was also some business instability in the past as he was in a battle with a former partner at some point a few years ago. I know partnerships are hard to deal with, but that kind of drama also drives away business when folks aren't sure if they'll be around in a week/month/year.
Liability drives a lot of the market.
I think he had a major issue with an online hosting company too.
" Partnership is a tough ship to sail". That gem was once told to me by the late "Nitrous" John Gossen (google him). It's like a marriage/divorce type deal. AMHIK.
I know you have your own history with it...
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
The height of the spindles is different. Be sure you check. This may severely knock out your jounce and rebound camber angles and affect bump steer.
Buyer beware, triple check.
Buyer beware, triple check.
The caliper brackets were forged steel and snapped off under an emergency stop situation.
Take what I said with a grain of salt. I don't care, I wouldn't put that crap on anything I own, I have a lifetime supply of disc brake spindles and brackets in my attic...
MarPar
Meat Man with a Hat
You have me curious about what the application was and where they were sourced. Since I haven't seen any caliper brackets being reproduced for C bodies, I would assume it was for something else.
That said, I believe caliper brackets are cast and not forged. Too much detail and shape for a forging process.
It's a moot point for me too, as I already have disc brakes on my 300.
It's also not to start a disagreement about it... The fact is that someone has given more options to C body guys. It opens up options.
If my memory is correct (I recently saw it, however life has been busy and I have had more important things to remember) it was a C body and it was I want to say a Scarebird set up.
As forementioned, I'm not a aftermarket brake conversion fan, I prefer factory engineering and quality controlled components.
At the moment, all 4 of my C's have disc brakes (3 are factory disc cars), and as mentioned I have a few set up's stashed for the future.
I just wanted to point out a consideration that anyone thinking of going this route may want to keep in mind.
Nick
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