Newby 1970 Dodge Polara Convertible

[1978 NYB]

This is why I'm on FCBO every day!!!!

Too funny!!!

Thanks Team!!!!

 

[detmatt]

Hilarious but Don't forget the three burnt orange ones.

 

[cm23uoc]

Just two more checkmarks in the Brown category. ;)

 

[1970cat]

:sSig_goodjob: but you forgot the green ones!

 

[ayilar]

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This was us at Moparfest in 2004.

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Dave: whose car is the cream (Y3?) 'vert?

 

[polara71]

Dave: whose car is the cream (Y3?) 'vert?

Peter's car. A low optioned survivor that Pete put a lot of miles on. He bought that in the early 2000s, around 02 I guess. Peter ran into some health issues and had a hard time of it. He did surprise me at Carlisle two years ago.

 

[kmccabe56]

I have a question that I need answered and hopefully the numbers guys will get in here... Where are the Y codes? I have noticed some have Y codes and some do not....WHY?


Here is what else I can tell you that you may or may not know.

The generally accepted number of 1970 convertibles built is 842 ... 79 were built with a 440....It is said that 45 of the roughly 695 built for the US cars were painted burnt orange, FK5..... 164 of those 695 had bucket seats

over the last 35 years I have located over 100 cars, many beyond repair but they still keep creeping out of the "woodwork" at a rate these days of about three a year. Yours has been added to the list and of course, I am envious of yours

PLEASE !!! PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!! Replace the word BUILT with the word SOLD!!! Especially when it comes to quoting numbers for options.

 

[kmccabe56]

No, Y codes are on some and not others but I cant figure it out. Same plant, even same body line. Y05, Y14, Y16, Y93 ... I have tags with these Y codes and some with none at all

Y codes generally refer to something related to the factory's vision of the end use or destination of the car.

Y05 is a car built for the U.S.A.
Y14 is a sold car (as opposed to a car built for dealer stock).
Y16 is a sale bank car. (It's been spec'd out by some troll in a regional office somewhere meant to be built and shoved down a dealer's throat in hopes he'll be able to sell it.)
Y93 is "Show car Finish B less gas". So this car is likely headed off to some sort of auto show (hence no gas), or maybe it's going into a press fleet to be handed out to journalists at newspapers or magazines so that they'll write a glowing article about it. (with 5 or so gallons in the tank so that it won't run out coming off the car hauler). There's also a "Show Car Finish A" as well as a "Show Car Finish" (no mention of gas with this one). I have no idea what the distinctions are between the three but obviously somebody thought there needed to be.

 

[kmccabe56]

No, Y codes are on some and not others but I cant figure it out. Same plant, even same body line. Y05, Y14, Y16, Y93 ... I have tags with these Y codes and some with none at all

Remember Rule #1 about fender tags. What goes on the tag is the perogative of the guy operating the machine that makes them. Some guys are intent on listing everything they can (which is why some cars have 2 tags), some plants, mainly Lynch Road had entirely different ideas about what was "important" and needed to be on the tag. Some guys might be new on the job and it takes them longer to enter info for a tag until they get used to the machine and the line speed, so those tags might have less on them.

 

[polara71]

Remember Rule #1 about fender tags. What goes on the tag is the perogative of the guy operating the machine that makes them. Some guys are intent on listing everything they can (which is why some cars have 2 tags), some plants, mainly Lynch Road had entirely different ideas about what was "important" and needed to be on the tag. Some guys might be new on the job and it takes them longer to enter info for a tag until they get used to the machine and the line speed, so those tags might have less on them.

The C body tags are pretty consistent but as someone pointed out it seems most Y codes on the 70 tags appeared after a certain date.

 

[69CoronetRT]

Remember Rule #1 about fender tags. What goes on the tag is the perogative of the guy operating the machine that makes them. Some guys are intent on listing everything they can (which is why some cars have 2 tags), some plants, mainly Lynch Road had entirely different ideas about what was "important" and needed to be on the tag. Some guys might be new on the job and it takes them longer to enter info for a tag until they get used to the machine and the line speed, so those tags might have less on them.

Because each plant handled things differently, the following is a generalization.

The intent of the tag is to be a portable, durable indication of driveline, paint, trim, and in general, what brackets need to be attached or holes need to be punched in the BIW.

HOW this was accomplished varies by year and plant. How this was executed varied during the year. What was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on a tag changes.

Cars generally have two tags because of the amount of items that follow the general guidelines. When you have three codes for external mirrors and two codes for exhaust, a tag fills up quickly meaning a second tag is needed to accommodate all the necessary codes.

In no way shape or form was it up to anyone’s individual prerogative what was included on a tag. Each plant had guidelines.

 

[polara71]

Because each plant handled things differently, the following is a generalization.

The intent of the tag is to be a portable, durable indication of driveline, paint, trim, and in general, what brackets need to be attached or holes need to be punched in the BIW.

HOW this was accomplished varies by year and plant. How this was executed varied during the year. What was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on a tag changes.

Cars generally have two tags because of the amount of items that follow the general guidelines. When you have three codes for external mirrors and two codes for exhaust, a tag fills up quickly meaning a second tag is needed to accommodate all the necessary codes.

In no way shape or form was it up to anyone’s individual prerogative what was included on a tag. Each plant had guidelines.

That I believe , at least on 70 / 71 cars since those are the ones I follow.
I've never seen L36 on a 70 polara tag yet L31 and L35 are always on there when applicable .

 

[MarPar]

Following {this now revived thread- Michel} with interest...

 

[polara71]

Following {this now revived thread- Michel} with interest...

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[MarPar]

Thought you'd like it

 

[kmccabe56]

Because each plant handled things differently, the following is a generalization.

The intent of the tag is to be a portable, durable indication of driveline, paint, trim, and in general, what brackets need to be attached or holes need to be punched in the BIW.

HOW this was accomplished varies by year and plant. How this was executed varied during the year. What was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on a tag changes.

Cars generally have two tags because of the amount of items that follow the general guidelines. When you have three codes for external mirrors and two codes for exhaust, a tag fills up quickly meaning a second tag is needed to accommodate all the necessary codes.

In no way shape or form was it up to anyone’s individual prerogative what was included on a tag. Each plant had guidelines.[/QUOTE

I'm going by what I was told from the plant people I talked to. I'm not saying there weren't documents that specify guidelines, but I've never seen any. Do you have any?

 

[69CoronetRT]

There is no one, NO ONE, in the world that would love to see those documents as much as I would. It would save me years of research.

Even if what went on a tag was left to the discretion of the person that made the tags, you would see patterns based on their preferences. You could track and identify “personality” based on consistency. You don’t see that.

When you look at 2,000 tags from the same plant and you see very little variation in what was coded or the general philosophy behind the coding, that tells you that there was little personal deviation in what went on a tag.

When the coding variations are consistent and predictable by time of year or general coding structure, that tells you there was little discretion on what went on the tag.

 

[ayilar]

@Ruger -- any update on DL27T0D119129 ?