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[commando1]

I should have kept this Dart. If I had a dollar for every expert ,that told me you know they never made those I would be rich.

Yes, I couldn't even afford the 383 GTS. Had to settle for a 273-2 (!!) GT. A leftover at that...

Dan: Ever hear about the D-Darts? NOBODY knows about them.

 

[Dan Scully]

I walked into Trautman Dodge with visions of a Super Bee. I drove out with a Dart

Yes, I couldn't even afford the 383 GTS. Had to settle for a 273-2 (!!) GT. A leftover at that...

Dan: Ever hear about the D-Darts? NOBODY knows about them.

Those have lower #s than the 67 GTS,s

Look what I found for sale . If I had the cash I would buy it back but I,am a bit short this week.

 

[commando1]

RK Motors???
Divide by 2 and subtract 10%.

 

[Dan Scully]

RK Motors???

I had this as long term project ,it was blown apart to paint and sat for a I,am going to get to it time. A friend bought it put it back together .I had a ton of NOS parts even found a set of NOS mag style hubcaps for it. Could have bought it back from him for a really fair price . One reason I passed is it was so friggin nice it was almost too nice to drive. The add from the sales place has some good info but some of the stuff I know about the car would shoot down some of their claims.

 

[commando1]

The Mopar World is a small world...

Fully supported by its... documented owner history,

I wonder if you're included.

 

[tallhair]

It was just another Sales Bank slow mover rammed down the dealer's throat.

69 RR's were slow movers?

 

[Fratzog]

69 RR's were slow movers?

It wouldn't surprise me since I never did understand the concept of a column shift "performance" car.

 

[commando1]

69 RR's were slow movers?

Let me put it this way. Even the Hemi Wing cars were sitting on the lots a year later for below dealer's cost...
They weren't Chevy SS396's...

 

[bluefury361]

It wouldn't surprise me since I never did understand the concept of a column shift "performance" car.

Whats not to understand ....? A column shift is not slower then a floor shift.
Your confusing the "sportiness" factor with performance.

Actually, bucket seats and a console add weight over a bench & column shift. That was what I was thinking about in 69 when ordering my A12. Went with the coupe because it was lighter then a Hardtop too.

I think it was 67 in the mopar camp when stripes & grafics came into play, then snowballed from there.
I haven't seen a racing stripe add ET or speed to a car yet.

 

[Dan Scully]

67

The Mopar World is a small world...


Fully supported by its... documented owner history,


I wonder if you're included.​

I was the 3rd owner ,so who knows.

 

[Fratzog]

Whats not to understand ....? A column shift is not slower then a floor shift.
Your confusing the "sportiness" factor with performance.

Not in my book...the floor shifter in my Monaco is a lot slicker to shift manually than the column shifter in my Polara. Also you don't see a lot of aftermarket "performance" column shifters given that column shifters were much more common from the factory.

 

[bluefury361]

Actually...... I always perfered the pushbuttons from 56-64

 

[cm23uoc]

Apart from maybe being in different classes, a 4 on the floor would be first choice I'd say which would come this way with the RR.
Not sure if a manually shifted automatic added much to ETs at all due to lack of experience, don't think there would be a measurable differnce between coulum shifted to console shifted automatic.

However I would have never ordered any car with a column shift if there was a console shift option, I just don't like it.

 

[polara71]

I need the extra room, dont want it on the floor

 

[cm23uoc]

Have to correct myself somewhat. My favorite setup ist the floorshift sans console; just a hole with a stick in a rubber boot. A shrink probably would relate this to something else.

 

[commando1]

I see it clearly....

 

[bluefury361]

Apart from maybe being in different classes, a 4 on the floor would be first choice I'd say which would come this way with the RR.QUOTE]

I would agree with you about that on anything except a mopar. Chrysler proved early in the 60's that the torqueflight auto trans was king of the 1/4 mile stock classes. ET's easily matched that of the 4 speed cars, (unless you were Ronnie Sox or Wally Booth).

A torqueflight was much better at handleing the torque of the big blocks then the 833 4 speed was. This was especially true on street tires of the day.

I've had and loved driving a 4 speed but the serious street racer will go with an automatic.

NOTE: (Street racing is illegal in some places).

 

[cm23uoc]

Always interesting to read about the recollections of the guys who were around back in the day. When the early intermediate drag cars came out they actually were only available with the pushbutton auto trans, then in 64 I think they came with this ad: "We used to win automatically, now you have a choice" when the four speed could be combined with the SS engines.

Our European cars had too much of a powerloss already in the first place with auto trans with 4 or 6 bangers and miniscule torque and hp compared to the US.

So street racing can be against the law... :eusa_think:

 

[Fratzog]

Not sure if a manually shifted automatic added much to ETs at all due to lack of experience, .

I have little experience but doesn't it make sense that you need to shift a 727 manually to hit the torque curve sweet spot at the right rpm?

 

[bluefury361]

I have little experience but doesn't it make sense that you need to shift a 727 manually to hit the torque curve sweet spot at the right rpm?

Not really, It was hard to beat the factory kick down linkage settings by manually shifting. And if modificaions like headers or a mild cam were done the kickdown linkage could be tweeked a little to streach the shift points. Just leave the shifter in drive ..... brake torque a little and your off.

Actually though .... most street racing was done from a roll .... 15-20 MPH and in second gear. And a full 1/4 mile sprint was unusual also. It was the hard core, run for cash races that used a flagman and ran the full 1/4 .... but those cars were normally well modified.

I cruised and raced on Woodward ave in Mich from the mid 60's to the early 70's and it was a lot easier to get a race with my 66 383 4sp Satellite then it was with my 69 A12. Just the visual appearance of the Roadrunner scared some guys off.
And then there was the factory, (unofficial), backed street racers ...... Ya had to watch out for them. Usually one or two young guys, (engineers), driving brand new GTO's, 442's, Grand Sports, Mustangs etc. that were prepped and blueprinted at the manufacturers various special vehicle facilities and used as immage cars on the streets. The giveaway was the "M" license plates. They would install low gears .... 4:56-4:88 and would launch from a light or slow roll like a rocket. I could usually catch them at the top of 2nd gear though.

It's a lot different now ......