OK you truckers...

Robert Kennedy gets into a pissing match with Hoffa.
Teamsters get destroyed by Deregulation (the REAL reason Dereg was pushed through.)
Trucking becomes the Wild West.
Wages drop to below minimum wage when calculated realistically.
A gazillion trucks that ended up out on the road cannibalized each other.
Now there's over capacity and all the scumbags in the industry go and cash out.
Capitalism left unchecked
 
cantflip said:
So would this be the charitable act they are making it out to be, or just early vultures getting in on the feast of the carrion of a dead company full of prequalified drivers.
Rival carriers rush to assist stranded Celadon drivers (with video) - FreightWaves
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Falcon went through this when Lordstown Oh GM plant closed up. Hide the keys and keep your receipts to get paid. Yeah right, I would pack my stuff up and head home, the keys hidden in the ignition switch. Once it runs out of fuel.
To the uninformed, never buy stock in a trucking company. They cut each other's throats constantly.
 
Well said Stan. We know because we lived it dayley back then. FWIW. Celadon had a terminal right next door to us when I gave up being an OO and signed on for wages in 1980. What they paid there drivers back then was a crime. Channel 19 was still hot back then and they were constantly bitching about the 18-19 cents a mile and that company is still hemorrhaging $. ???????????
 
70bigblockdodge said:
Falcon went through this when Lordstown Oh GM plant closed up. Hide the keys and keep your receipts to get paid. Yeah right, I would pack my stuff up and head home, the keys hidden in the ignition switch. Once it runs out of fuel.
To the uninformed, never buy stock in a trucking company. They cut each other's throats constantly.
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You are far too kind.
I'd park the trailer in a remote location, the tractor a hundred miles away, sell the toll transponder for ten bucks, toss the keys down the sewer and have a big juicy cheeseburger before flying home.
 
commando1 said:
Trucking becomes the Wild West.
Wages drop to below minimum wage when calculated realistically.
A gazillion trucks that ended up out on the road cannibalized each other
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They deregulated the rates.
Ever since then they have been regulating the safety side.
If they were really concerned with safety they would implement a per day minimum salary, that way mechanical failures, shipping delays and weather would not create a situation of hurry up catch up mentality. Also the 14 hours needs to be in 24 hours broken up however you want with minimum 3 conservative hour breaks counting toward a 8 hour rest period, with the 10 hours filled up with meal stops/breaks. This would alleviate the "well I'm in the middle of my 14 hour race so I have to plow right through New York, Chicago, LA, etc during rush hour traffic. Adding to the congestion and probability for a accident in these and all metro areas.
Hey, what the **** do we know we are just dumb truck drivers.
I would love to know the total number of employees of Govt, insurance, and trucking organizations whose jobs revolve solely around large trick safety, compared to the number of OTH long haul drivers they effect the most. I am not one, but have friends that are. I would bet money there are more deciding the rules than having to live by these ridiculous rules.
They need a ruling from Congress, supreme Court or something to half the size of the safety regulation book.
Just my thoughts, it will never change as long as I will be around.
 
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commando1 said:
You are far too kind.
I'd park the trailer in a remote location, the tractor a hundred miles away, sell the toll transponder for ten bucks, toss the keys down the sewer and have a big juicy cheeseburger before flying home.
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Yes the trailer would be left who cares where and I would start bobtailing home. That toll transponder will already be off so you will have to find a real dummy (not hard) to buy it.
 
70bigblockdodge said:
If they were really concerned with safety they would...
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Here's the most asinine part of the whole thing:
The same rules apply to everyone. Makes no diff if you are out 3 weeks racking up 9,000 miles, home 1-1/2 days and going back out for 3 more, OR...
A guy in a straight job doing 50 local deliveries and pickups a day and punching out.
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commando1 said:
A guy in a straight job doing 50 local deliveries and pickups a day and punching out.
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Well local can be on a time sheet. As long as you return to same spot each day. This is the rules I follow. 100 air miles and 12 hours if I go over 12 I have to fill out a log, which also makes no Sense
 
commando1 said:
Not if your traveling interstate. My "local" could cover 3 states. Don't forget, New England is 1/2 dozen tiny states that PA can swallow up.
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Unless they've changed the Federal Hours of Service since the last time I read them, they state 100 mile radius of your home terminal. No mention of any interstate restrictions to that, that I recall.

Kevin
 
twostick said:
I read them, they state 100 mile radius of your home terminal
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You may be right. 100 miles from my home terminal could put me in any of the six New England states.
Which REALLY SUCKED WHEN I HAD TO RECORD MY ODOMETER EVERY TIME I CROSSED A STATE LINE! :soapbox:
I ended up lying 90% of the time.
(This was before GPS tracking)
 
When I started in the industry, I was a truck driver.
When I retired I basically had been turned into a trained chimpanzee.
 
commando1 said:
When I started in the industry, I was a truck driver.
When I retired I basically had been turned into a trained chimpanzee.
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commando1 said:
When I started in the industry, I was a truck driver.
When I retired I basically had been turned into a trained chimpanzee.
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Glad I'm out of the racket you guyz. It's no fun If you can't embellish ah bit. I left Pocatello one time headed for Evensville, In. And my 1st stop for a nap on that journey was in Iowa on I-29 just north of the Missouri line in ah Phillips 66 T.S.. Slept 10 hours and headed south toward KCM and they were checkin' funny books at the Missouri Chicken House and guess what. I'd stayed in Pocatello and extra day just to get a "0" in the mix but didn't realize when I added that "0" I'd spit another "0" off the bottom at the same time so I didn't gain one minute, lol. FYI Folks, I ran with a cassette recorder and recorded my odometer readings at fuel stops and state lines, and Down Times. Weigh Master was trying to help me get legal and after I'd played back the recording when he ask me how I was doing I told him I can't get legal. And he ask well how close can you get? I said according to my calculations that'd be somewhere between Kimmerer and Little America. He ask where the hell iz that and I said Kimmerer is the first town you get to in Wyoming after leaving Idaho on US 30 so I'd have to add somewhere around 900 miles to where I am now. After I rode to the Magistrate in the back of the squad car and paid the $60 fine he brought me back to the Chicken House he said you're free to go and added, I don't know what to tell you if the scale is open just east of KC and I responded, "If they are they won't see me". He laughed and said get the hell out of here. Ah the good old dayz, Jer
 
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