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Lol!
When does this thread start? I got a few thoughts that I gotta get off my chest before I have a stroke.
Lol!
When does this thread start? I got a few thoughts that I gotta get off my chest before I have a stroke.
When you in particular said "**** Joey" in one of the last posts before the thread was taken down, what do you think and one other member did as well?
We tried politics on this site for some time now and saw all the hate sprewed forth everywhere - what is any good reason for having it on a car site? Most of us I assume are sick and tired of politics everywhere.
Some of you guys that want the politics back only post virtually all the time on that subject and nothing on cars - you can't find someplace else to go?
Get a life...................................
This site has been so much more enjoyable without so many threads being invaded by that subject by those who just can't obey directives, covid or not. Letting politics back on this site would only deteriorate over time just as it did in the past.
It needs to be gone forever - no place on a car site. We don't even discuss A, B or E bodies here. But politics????????????????????????
Why is there a political section on B/A bodies,but not here?
Why should it be any different for here?
... Clearly you dislike the talk of politics, but I'm curious how you feel about that limiting your EV/climate change topics and discussions as they are political in nature. Do you also want all instances of "climate change" to be banned? That is a very political topic that is an interest of yours.
Because those sites had them from day 1 - for the longest time this site didnt need it.. It was small and tight knit enough that you guys were fine without it. But as this site has grown, and the political climate has changed, its become much more of an issue.
Because I've learned lessons on those other sites. One is, the politics forum can be a real PITA and can cause problems outside of the politics forum.
Because those sites had them from day 1 - for the longest time this site didnt need it.. It was small and tight knit enough that you guys were fine without it. But as this site has grown, and the political climate has changed, its become much more of an issue.
I thought Joey was dead set against this here as it seems he has his hands full enough dealing with BBO's political forum? I didn't know ABO had a political as I only lurk in the /6 section. Personally I don't care as I'm getting burned out on Forums, Groups, etc. as well as the I-net for the lack of civility and stupidity of people in all of it.
Sorry, I just assumed because of your response to jct's comment and your previous move of the America thread to the gold section. Glad to see you think it doesn't have to be that way. BTW consistent and firm implementation of my suggestions will make most of your concerns a non-issue. What about a trial period to year end and then review where we are?where did I say gold member section?
Sorry, I just assumed because of your response to jct's comment and your previous move of the America thread to the gold section. Glad to see you think it doesn't have to be that way. BTW consistent and firm implementation of my suggestions will make most of your concerns a non-issue. What about a trial period to year end and then review where we are?
Honestly, my biggest concern is spill over. I can contain the politics in its own forum, what becomes difficult is dealing with members who build up an animosity in the politics forum and then start sniping at each other in car threads.
Just some thoughts,
Did I fly off, maybe, but you should expect knee-jerk reactions when policies and practices are suddenly changed with no warning or explanation. Besides, my post in no way harmed joey or anyone else. And no, I'm not suggesting that personal attacks should be common or ultimately accepted. But calling people on their crap is different.
I despise any kind of member rant thread, of which I believe exist in the gold member section. That's just a passive-aggressive, cowardly attack on someone. (I'm not accusing you of participating, but I don't know either way)
Yes I get burned out on politics, and have chosen to not participate in some, but I still would like to have the ability to discuss topics. Clearly you dislike the talk of politics, but I'm curious how you feel about that limiting your EV/climate change topics and discussions as they are political in nature. Do you also want all instances of "climate change" to be banned? That is a very political topic that is an interest of yours.
Everyone personalizes things. Almost inevitably any discussion today gets off of actually solving anything and gets into name calling and digging in to the furthest left or right position..
The America thread became undebateable . The more Fred, myself and a few others posted factual information the more three in particular handles mocked without an honest debate. No discussion, minimal input and no argument.
Two guys put up an honest attempt at a disagreement that I can recall. As for those three handles I'm still waiting for a hundred questions to be answered. Those questions only provoked attacks.
Actually, if I did it, it would be its own forum that you would have to join to see the posts in it.
I have tried many times to discuss matters with you and spent more time than I should have to explain my views clearly. But most of the time I only got red Xs from you without any cogent response to my points.
Fred actually did try to respond to my issues but I found myself unable to agree with his views and felt I was getting no where.
So now I don't want to waste any more time on politics and just want to see car stuff, or I am on the verge of leaving the site. I realize you probably hope I do, but I really don't care anymore. This country is badly divided and in a dangerous place IMO, and so many guys don't see it.
Also, for the record, I am not a liberal in the sense of the word many of the guys on this site try to characterize me as. I really oppose a lot of the views of the left and also a lot of the stuff on the right. The best description of my views is that I am an independent who leans left when it comes to the environment and the party that is more successful in fixing the issues in this country effectively. Neither party, though, is very good any more......................