Rapidtrans777
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Take 10 minutes. Things that make you go hmmm
Putting things in perspective.
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Take 10 minutes. Things that make you go hmmm
rapidtrans
Senior Member
Gave the “Atlas Shrugged” trilogy a watch last week.
Lot of buzz words like “fair share”, “for the greater good” and “wages according to ones needs rather than ability” sounded very familiar.
Lot of buzz words like “fair share”, “for the greater good” and “wages according to ones needs rather than ability” sounded very familiar.
I don't believe that it's "all the media's fault". They are supposed to report the news AND every time POTUS says or tweets something about the Covid19 deal, it's "news" and must be reported by someone, lest another news outlet gets to it first. THAT, to me, is why there's so much "media" (with no malice toward anyone). They are just doing their job, no more, no less . . . provided that they don't seek to "spin" it. Most of them have been good, by observation, in calling-out POTUS's mis-statements, or statements that don't agree with experts. fwiw.
So, as several news operatives have noted, "Things change hourly, so stay tuned for the latest . . ." Just glad there's something other than "talk radio" to listen to.
CBODY67
In many cases, that orientation has been around for MANY decades. For example, a single male might not be paid as much as a married male, with a wife and kids to support. A married female might not be paid as much as a married male, to do the same job, as she has a husband to support her. That FAR pre-dates "Atlas Shrugged", I believe. Perceived needs vs. actual job performance.
CBODY67
Marv
Senior Member
@crv my opinion is the same. There are worse deseases than covid19.
My neighbors are doctors at the hospital half a mile of our apartment building and they explained what happens.
Germany has 83mio people and just 28.000 icu beds. About 10% of infected people suffer seriously and need ventilation on intense care. If the virus would spread uncontrolled our icu capacities will not be sufficient resulting in many many people dying because they didn't get the medical attention they required. Not only covid19 victims but everyone who needs to be treated in icu (strokes, heartattacks, traffic crashes etc) that's it.
The only way to prevent this scenario from happening again is having standby icu capacities in the future. But who pays for that? It'll be interesting, my 2 cents is it will be worth the money as a 2nd shut down would kill what will be left of our economy after this **** is over
My neighbors are doctors at the hospital half a mile of our apartment building and they explained what happens.
Germany has 83mio people and just 28.000 icu beds. About 10% of infected people suffer seriously and need ventilation on intense care. If the virus would spread uncontrolled our icu capacities will not be sufficient resulting in many many people dying because they didn't get the medical attention they required. Not only covid19 victims but everyone who needs to be treated in icu (strokes, heartattacks, traffic crashes etc) that's it.
The only way to prevent this scenario from happening again is having standby icu capacities in the future. But who pays for that? It'll be interesting, my 2 cents is it will be worth the money as a 2nd shut down would kill what will be left of our economy after this **** is over
Old man Utah
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I kind of agree with most everything that is being said here because I too believe the sheep are being herded into the pen by way of mostly digital contraptions and the dreaded media, I've also been saying to friends for years that we are headed for Mad Max and while it was an entertaining movie, I never considered that we could move in that backward direction.
The one thing you need to look at here is Spain and Italy. They may be far off countries that will fit into a corner of the US but there are now 1000 people DYING per day! . If you live in a city of 100,000 and this virus changes enough to where it can kill anyone regardless of health or age, then it would take a third of the year to clear out the population of said city. The Spanish flu of 1918 which I believe started in the US wiped out between 50 to 100 million people , all of which were the young and healthy of the population. The war count didn't come close to that. What we need to know is if the virus did start with the disgusting eating habits of the chinese in their filthy wet markets or not.
If not , then where? There is a bad virus out there and it is killing people. Stay safe!
The one thing you need to look at here is Spain and Italy. They may be far off countries that will fit into a corner of the US but there are now 1000 people DYING per day! . If you live in a city of 100,000 and this virus changes enough to where it can kill anyone regardless of health or age, then it would take a third of the year to clear out the population of said city. The Spanish flu of 1918 which I believe started in the US wiped out between 50 to 100 million people , all of which were the young and healthy of the population. The war count didn't come close to that. What we need to know is if the virus did start with the disgusting eating habits of the chinese in their filthy wet markets or not.
If not , then where? There is a bad virus out there and it is killing people. Stay safe!
Wildaugust
Senior Member
I'll just leave this here.
This has been suggested, and it is very probable that this virus is a bio weapon. Some are theorizing that the CIA let the virus loose on the people of China after the failed attempt to destabilize that nation, others state that it is a Chinese plot to ruin the economies of rival countries, it depends which side you're on as to which theory you believe.
Both unlikely scenarios, risk far out weighs any potential gain. Likely there would be nukes flying around by now if the CIA was determined to have done this. Probably more likely that a lab rat was sold for food or some incompetent idiot got contaminated somehow and infected those around him. The Chinese have fully turned up their propaganda apparatus to deflect blame, that is the first clue the virus originated in China close to their bio weapon site. American media, particularily have often parroted the Chicom propaganda.
Dave
MoPar Maniac
Well-Known Member
Don't forget the lab in Wuhan works with a biolab at the U of Texas which is run by....the cia.
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
They can easily sit this period out and
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
Dsertdog
Old man with an old guitar, and a blue note.
Lets put things in better ( puts tin hat on
).First off China sells to a lot of people. We buy their cheap consumer goods, from auto parts to xylophones. But so do other nations, who also buy oil, which we don't.
This will read like a B sci fi movie but what the heck.
A lab uses the components found in Bat meat, which when induced into humans creates the virus
Next, the scientists intend on making A: a cure and B: a vaccine which they can sell at their price. Note: China makes 99% of OUR medicines....that's right!
Here's where it gets movie like.
They start mutating the virus to make it last longer and hit harder but...
those involved needed humans to see how long the virus stays on surfaces. It has been stated that the virus itself will last up two weeks on rubber and stainless steel. Think about that while your wife is fondling her brand new pots and pans, or if you remove your shoes by hand.
By some error or fluke, or perhaps intent, the virus is leaked into the chinese populace to test the results*. The problem is, the monster ran wild and went on a killing spree.
The chinese had not developed their cure or vaccine, and now their people are dropping like flies. No problem, go to plan B...shut down the plants that make our products and cut the supply off, raising prices and tanking economies. Revenge for Trumps tariffs.
But the scientists still haven't got a way to stop it. But they are rushing to solve the issue and look like heros. It may be too late...the world and the US is working as quickly.
Can the monster be stopped in time?
We'll have to wait for the sequel.
Ps: *Someone will ask why would the Chinese government sacrifice their people? History shows they're quite willing to. In Korea, Mao sent over 2 million troops into the South. The US figures they killed over 400,000 and as many were wounded. Many more died from exposure.
Doesn't even include the cultural cleansing...
Lets put things in better ( puts tin hat on
First off China sells to a lot of people. We buy their cheap consumer goods, from auto parts to xylophones. But so do other nations, who also buy oil, which we don't.
This will read like a B sci fi movie but what the heck.
A lab uses the components found in Bat meat, which when induced into humans creates the virus
Next, the scientists intend on making A: a cure and B: a vaccine which they can sell at their price. Note: China makes 99% of OUR medicines....that's right!
Here's where it gets movie like.
They start mutating the virus to make it last longer and hit harder but...
those involved needed humans to see how long the virus stays on surfaces. It has been stated that the virus itself will last up two weeks on rubber and stainless steel. Think about that while your wife is fondling her brand new pots and pans, or if you remove your shoes by hand.
By some error or fluke, or perhaps intent, the virus is leaked into the chinese populace to test the results*. The problem is, the monster ran wild and went on a killing spree.
The chinese had not developed their cure or vaccine, and now their people are dropping like flies. No problem, go to plan B...shut down the plants that make our products and cut the supply off, raising prices and tanking economies. Revenge for Trumps tariffs.
But the scientists still haven't got a way to stop it. But they are rushing to solve the issue and look like heros. It may be too late...the world and the US is working as quickly.
Can the monster be stopped in time?
We'll have to wait for the sequel.
Ps: *Someone will ask why would the Chinese government sacrifice their people? History shows they're quite willing to. In Korea, Mao sent over 2 million troops into the South. The US figures they killed over 400,000 and as many were wounded. Many more died from exposure.
Doesn't even include the cultural cleansing...
And don't forget beloved chairman Mao, his purges and the "Cultural Revolution" killed many millions more.
Dave
stubs300
Senior Member
This puts things really into perspective!
Q: What is an Economic Stimulus payment?
A: It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.
Q: Where will the government get this money?
A: From taxpayers.
Q: So the government is giving me back my own money?
A: Only a smidgen of it.
Q: What is the purpose of this payment?
A: The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a high definition television set, a new iPad, or a new SUV, thus stimulating the economy.
Q: Isn’t that stimulating the economy of China?
A: Shut up.
Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the U. S. economy and spend your stimulus check wisely:
* If you spend the stimulus money at Walmart the money will go to China or Sri Lanka.
* if you spend it on gasoline, your money goes to the Arabs.
* if you purchase a phone or computer, it goes to India,Taiwan or China.
* if you purchase fruits and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.
* if you buy an efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea.
* if you purchase useless stuff, it goes to Taiwan.
* if you pay your credit card off, or buy stock, it will go to management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.
Instead keep the money in America by:
(1) Spending it at a socially-distanced yard sale, or
(2) Get takeout from a restaurant, or
(3) Spend it on prostitutes, or
(4) Beer, or
(5) Tattoos
(These are the only American businesses still operating in the U.S.)
CONCLUSION: Get takeout with a tattooed prostitute that you met at a yard sale and drink beer all day.
No need to thank me, I’m just glad I could be of help.
Your friendly tax accountant
Q: What is an Economic Stimulus payment?
A: It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.
Q: Where will the government get this money?
A: From taxpayers.
Q: So the government is giving me back my own money?
A: Only a smidgen of it.
Q: What is the purpose of this payment?
A: The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a high definition television set, a new iPad, or a new SUV, thus stimulating the economy.
Q: Isn’t that stimulating the economy of China?
A: Shut up.
Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the U. S. economy and spend your stimulus check wisely:
* If you spend the stimulus money at Walmart the money will go to China or Sri Lanka.
* if you spend it on gasoline, your money goes to the Arabs.
* if you purchase a phone or computer, it goes to India,Taiwan or China.
* if you purchase fruits and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.
* if you buy an efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea.
* if you purchase useless stuff, it goes to Taiwan.
* if you pay your credit card off, or buy stock, it will go to management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.
Instead keep the money in America by:
(1) Spending it at a socially-distanced yard sale, or
(2) Get takeout from a restaurant, or
(3) Spend it on prostitutes, or
(4) Beer, or
(5) Tattoos
(These are the only American businesses still operating in the U.S.)
CONCLUSION: Get takeout with a tattooed prostitute that you met at a yard sale and drink beer all day.
No need to thank me, I’m just glad I could be of help.
Your friendly tax accountant
So we get back to the deliberate misinformation put out by the media, that includes the apparent complete lockdown of Italy, when it appears that this is not the case at all. This virus is no different to the influenza virus in that its victims are primarily old and/or sick people, so why the need to shut down schools and businesses and adopt such draconian rules?
Protect those who are vulnerable and allow the rest of us to carry on.
MoPar Maniac
Well-Known Member
Why single out Wal Mart?
Everyone else gets their stuff from the same place.
Everyone else gets their stuff from the same place.
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
Because that post was simpleton cut/paste crap from the internet.
stubs300
Senior Member
A man who gets it!
