Mr C
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PL41...I'd expect PK41 for a cop car....plus a K code in 74 is a 360 2bbl...hardly cop car stuff.
It appears to be a bit of a stripped down machine options wise...I'm going to say foreign sales bank car- just a guess.
Special order? 74 fury
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PL41...I'd expect PK41 for a cop car....plus a K code in 74 is a 360 2bbl...hardly cop car stuff.
It appears to be a bit of a stripped down machine options wise...I'm going to say foreign sales bank car- just a guess.
You have a wealth of information and history Doug thanks for sharing
69CoronetRT
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Yeah...it's typical to see a "K" in the VIN for a cop car but other codes are consistent with a cop car. Definitely a fleet car; most likely a cop car. I don't have the police or fleet sales brochures for those years so that's all I can offer.
The U code pretty much tells us it was built for sale in the US and not foreign.
Here's a similar car but from '73. PL VIN, Y39, K code interior, K code VON, K code engine, special order tag. (KKK car...Oh MY!)
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Pete Kaczmarski
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In 1978 my friends Father purchased a 1974 Gran Fury from a Chicago auction. It was a former FBI car with the 360 2bbl. My friend was given it to drive for awhile. One day in High School we had a break to get to Auto Shop class and we went for a ride. My friend jumped some elevated railroad tracks purposely and bottomed out the car. I remember hitting my head on the roof. Needless to say, his father did not keep that car too much longer and sold it.
What is Special Mask?
for Batmobiles and such
Too funny!!!!
69CoronetRT
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My understanding is that this was used for cars that required a non standard paint scheme (top and bottom). For example, you could have a black fleet car that needed a white hood and trunk deck or a black car with white doors.
Would that include non-standard paint colors as some police and municipal cars have. Could the general public order a color that is not on the standard paint chart from Chrysler or was the car farmed out to a second source vendor for special paint.
MrMoparCHP
Old Man with a Hat
The none standard paint colors would get (sometimes) a "Special Paint" tag but on the regular tag it would have a 999 paint code.
The interesting thing about my 69 CHP car is that both the black and the white are listed as 999 although the black was a factory black.
On the 68 and earlier cars it would just be 99 on the tag.
There is no way to know what color the 999 or 99 codes are for.
Alan
MrMoparCHP
Old Man with a Hat
No, the only thing it means is that someone "special ordered" it. The rest of the codes tell you what it might have been options.
Are there any equipment mounting holes?
At best it might have been a managers car. I see nothing on the tag that would lead me to think it might have been used by law enforcement.
Alan
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Theoretically, yes, a customer could order any paint color they wish, even if it was from another car maker. I'm sure this happened a lot with fleet cars that go out for bids. The company doesn't care as much as to which brand they buy but want the color to be consistent. Bid specs probably call for a specific color.
I'm unaware of any retail customer ordered and documented cars that came that way.
I presume special paint cars were all done in house. The paint shop could mix any color they wanted so it would make sense to paint internally.
69CoronetRT
Senior Member
Possibly. Only some disassembly and researching the car would tell us what the car did and didn't come with. Not all cop car details are listed on the tag but could still remain on the car. Have you found a broadcast sheet in the car? That would help.
Here's what we do know...with the exception of the L instead of a K in the VIN (PL vs PK), the rest of the tag contains items consistent with PK code police cars (the interior code, the VON, the Y39, the special handling tag). It's pretty safe to say this was a fleet car of some kind. Without doing some research, we do not know who ordered it and for what purpose. We do not know for sure from what's in front of us that it was or was not used for police or law enforcement work. A little research on the car might give us more clues.
I must say that a black car with a gold interior would be an odd combination for a police car.
MrMoparCHP
Old Man with a Hat
Any police car in 1974 would have been loaded with holes, even a commander car would have a radio.
There is not one code that is not typical of something Joe Citizen could have had.
The best I can tell you have a Special Order car with AC and Tinted Windows (typical of AC cars)
Nothing about handling, no suspension upgrades, base 2-BBL 360
Looks like somebody wanted a stripped out Fury with AC, no Stripped out AC Fury on the lot so they ordered it.
Alan
I haven't found the car broadcast sheet, maybe the last owner miss him and I don't know if I had found "special" features on the car I only knows that has, black paint, black vinyl top, gold interior, 120 MPH speedo, 360 2 BBL, front disc brakes and came out from the factory line on july 1974 and according to the import manifest the car arrived in September 1975.
I sure to mention something: When I bought the car I discovered that the car was armored, the doors, firewall and behind the rear seat had huge aluminum sheets I don't know if the car came with them from USA or somebody installed them here. Could this be the "special" feature? I removed those aluminum sheets but still keep them
69CoronetRT
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We do not know yet if this is or is not a 'police' car. More research is needed before we can reach a conclusion.
Always willing to learn....
If this was simply a stripped down Fury, what would have triggered the Y39 and K VON for Joe Citizen?
What are you seeing that I am missing that is inconsistent coding with PK or other fleet cars?
Joe Citizen sitting down with a salesman and ordering a car the way he wanted it with or without certain available options does not make the car 'Special'. It makes it an 'Ordered' car but not a 'Special Order' car.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Thats what i was seeing.....the special ........it is there for a reason,dig that build sheet out
72Fury
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Any pictures of the car?
Cbodies69-73
Member
I read the owner is in South America, that alone should explain the special order tag. It must have something to do with being an export car or embassy car IDK but 1974 aluminum panel technology doesnt equal armored car.
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