Sub-frame Isolators/Insulators on Fuseys

[monaco75]

Zac, nice pics. Thanks.

Great pics! Thanks Monaco75, now that's what I'm talking about. At least the bolt is intact. You don't happen to have the dimensions of the bolt handy do you? Also, where do these bolts screw into? Will I have to cut a hole in the floor to access them? I ask because I fear I need to drill out the broken and rusted bolt and it will be difficult to do from underneath the vehicle (I don't have a hoist).

How does the top half of the original isolator (ïnsert) fit in. It looks like it has a steel sleeve that protrudes into the lower isolator? A close up pic plan view of the original assembly would be helpful as mine is crumbling rust from what I can see . Thanks again.

No problem guys.

Husky, I know there is more info on em over there, just need to find it. Thats all i could come up with quick last night. I couldnt tell you the specs on em or anything though.... All i remember is he had them made a little taller then the original rubber ones, thinking that over time the.runner broke down and shrunk under pressure. Also he was still negotiating on whether to use them or not. He went with plastic to improve.handling, and take away some of the mushiness. I do believe.he is using them..

Ill look into it when I get home to the computer, and post anything if I find something.

 

[polarus]

Here is a photo from 1972 service manual, the bolts mount to the body via threaded holes at the base of the cowl.

 

[commando1]

Interesting in the manual it's a "Stub" Frame.

 

[polara71]

Which makes more sense

 

[commando1]

So, everyone of us has been wrong all these years.

 

[polara71]

Looks that way...... Maybe a misprint. The book is wrong sometimes

 

[Husky]

And here's that link to the original TSB for those who aren't already aware...http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/TSBs/1970/70-23-8 page1.jpg

Given how salt was/is used extensively on roads over there in winter, I'm surprised this subject hasn't been raised more often. That said, I wonder how many fusey owners out there are totally unaware that their isolators are in the same rotten condition??

 

[Mr C]

I've had to replace bolts in the past, but the rubber has always been serviceable in my experience.

 

[commando1]

And here's that link to the original TSB for those who aren't already aware...http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/TSBs/1970/70-23-8 page1.jpg

Nice detective work. Thanks.

The Bulletin also calls it a Stub Frame so it wasn't an FSM typo.
So, yes. We all have been wrong all these years...


Also, I can't stand it anymore. I have to know.
Who is that guy?? His stare freaks me out, man.

 

[Husky]

The 80's Gran Fury cop cars had cast iron isolators instead of the rubber.

That said, my newly acquired 300 vert has rubber isolators.

That's weird, it didn't come from the factory that way!

 

[Husky]

Nice detective work. Thanks.

The Bulletin also calls it a Stub Frame so it wasn't an FSM typo.
So, yes. We all have been wrong all these years...


Also, I can't stand it anymore. I have to know.
Who is that guy?? His stare freaks me out, man.

Who is that guy you ask? He is the last of a dying breed. A man of principle; A man his word; A man you can trust. Tough, but fair. The kind of man who rises when a lady enters the room, yet wouldn't think twice about clouting some disrespectful, smart-mouthed young punk who dared to push his luck. He loves his country but has no time for big government. He wouldn't be caught dead driving an imported car and he only smokes Lucky Strikes. Does that narrow it down?

 

[polara71]

Some serious man love going on there

 

[detmatt]

And an old school ad for Lucky Strikes...
never heard stub frame before? Really?

 

[Big_John]

That's weird, it didn't come from the factory that way!

Never say never when it comes to Mopars.

 

[detmatt]

That's right John, I have a buddy that just picked up a rolling chassis '72 JS Challenger with a V for an engine code, we're trying to figure that one out right now. Could be a misprint or...

 

[polara71]

And the build date is?

 

[Big_John]

That's right John, I have a buddy that just picked up a rolling chassis '72 JS Challenger with a V for an engine code, we're trying to figure that one out right now. Could be a misprint or...

Nothing much surprises me anymore.... then I see something like that. Wow!

 

[detmatt]

It's a late built car judging by the rest of the vin, potentially very late. He should have it home today wher we can really start investigating it. Should be able to get date off K member. We know its an auto car with no a/c and looks to have been raced in its previous life. Clear title and body numbers still intact and match the vin. Also looks to have been powder blue over blue! It's either a misprint or one of none!

 

[polara71]

Did the seller try to sell it as a V or was he not even aware?

 

[polara71]

A late production 72 car with a V? Interesting, whats the plan for the car?