polara71
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OK! And you jumped in both feet first. What about 2011? 10? 09?08?07? 1993?Sudden? I've been on this board since 2012
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Sudden? I've been on this board since 2012
Back to our regular programming: lots of buy/sell activity for GE7 1973 Chryslers recently. Two 1973 burgundy Newports are on their way to the Netherlands: hopefully @coco and @69monaco point them to FCBO and to this thread
I don,t know who bought these 73,s...........
And sorry , i don,t like the front , it,s like a 74 impala ;
I know it,s a fuselage but that front looks like a tank
.No hard feelings from the 73 owners .....i hope...
When you meet them, I am sure that you'll send them here
And sorry, I don't like the front, it's like a '74 Impala (...) No hard feelings from the 73 owners .....i hope...
I will not argue with your taste, but whether you ought to express your dislike in the thread devoted to those cars and their admirers is another matter. What is not debatable is that the '74 Chevy copies the '73 Chrysler, not the other way around, as illustrated by @shooter65 in this post.
Carmine
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You're taking the memory of a 7 y/o kid over what I've documented? When I tell you there were no other Mariners made and show you all the details that would be completely unsuitable for mass production, how about giving that some credit instead of clouding the water? More than likely his neighbor had a Q5 turquoise Newport and "perhaps" a few dealers added porthole aftermarket windows after seeing the showcar. That was a popular aftermarket treatment I've seen on many early 70s cars. Mark VIs and early T-birds made that feature popular, just like continental kits.
Clouding the waters was of course not my intention. I simply wanted to get all the information about the 1973 Newport Mariner in one place, which would be this thread. Regardless, I made two mistakes in the way I presented the info:
1. the first is to have merely linked to your detailed post about the Mariner, without explicitly giving you credit for it in my initial reference to the Mariner in the present thread. I always try to provide my sources fully, without making it necessary for the reader to go to the post to find out who wrote the link, but in this case I did not mention your name. That omission is because my mention of the Mariner was a quick afterthought at the time. That's an explanation, not an excuse: please accept my apologies for that.
2. the second is that I did not provide any context in my second post (this past Saturday) re: the strength of the evidence provided in the various posts. Your 2016 post, which was very detailed and quoted direct sources, appears to have been in direct response to @IwannaImp's posted recollection of his memories as a kid. I missed your thread in 2016 and did not realize the connection between the posts in 2020, probably because you had not directly linked to his post and he had not responded to yours. Looking at the time stamps (Feb.16 vs. 18, 2016), and having confirmed through FCBO searches that there were no other Mariner posts predating yours, only now did I surmise that connection. Thank you for pointing it out.
Bottom line, I agree with your statement that it "would be VERY unlikely (...) that more than one (Mariner) exists." Or I could to quote a certain Lee N. Burns on Curbside Classics, who stated more explicitly in 2017 that "the Newport (Mariner) was a one-off show car, not a production model." Absent concrete evidence to the contrary, let's be clear that I agree.
I hope this puts the matter to rest.
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Carmine
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It does and I appreciate your reply. In the scheme of life, I know it's not really that big of a deal. I also know among car collectors there is always a desire to uncover an unknown piece of history... That's how I ended up with the Polara Sundance! But sometimes we also just have to realize there were no Hemi C-bodies, only a handful of 440+6 GTs, etc. Thanks
Georg/BBTR
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I like this thread @ayilar
Well, I checked all 47 '73 New Yorker and New Yorker Brougham in my little registry of Fuselage C-Bodies in Germany and found attached car. I sadly have no information on the owner or fender tag whatsoever. And yes, it has got wrong wheel covers and the accent stripe is straight not bend (was the bend one only on Broughams maybe?) so it may be far from factory stock, but it has 3D vinyl inserts in white... Maybe @ceebuddy or @fc7_plumcrazy can chime in and provide information on this New Yorker.
Well, I checked all 47 '73 New Yorker and New Yorker Brougham in my little registry of Fuselage C-Bodies in Germany and found attached car. I sadly have no information on the owner or fender tag whatsoever. And yes, it has got wrong wheel covers and the accent stripe is straight not bend (was the bend one only on Broughams maybe?) so it may be far from factory stock, but it has 3D vinyl inserts in white... Maybe @ceebuddy or @fc7_plumcrazy can chime in and provide information on this New Yorker.
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Has anyone seen this car (Mariner) in recent years? Would be good to know it still exists.
Carmine
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I like this thread @ayilar
Well, I checked all 47 '73 New Yorker and New Yorker Brougham in my little registry of Fuselage C-Bodies in Germany and found attached car. I sadly have no information on the owner or fender tag whatsoever. And yes, it has got wrong wheel covers and the accent stripe is straight not bend (was the bend one only on Broughams maybe?) so it may be far from factory stock, but it has 3D vinyl inserts in white... Maybe @ceebuddy or @fc7_plumcrazy can chime in and provide information on this New Yorker.
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Hold on... I just let this hit me. Are you saying there are FORTY SEVEN 1973 NY'ers in just the nation of Germany? FORTY SEVEN of one particular model and year? On one hand, that would please me... on the other, NFW!
Georg/BBTR
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That is absolutely correct, @Carmine
Well, almost. There are 46 not 47, I miscounted them last night.12 x Newport Sedan (one of them a Navajo)
4 x Newport 4dr HT (one of them a Navajo)
7 x Newport 2dr HT (three of them Navajos)
4 x New Yorker/Brougham Sedan
12 x New Yorker/Brougham 4dr HT
1 x New Yorker Brougham 2dr HT (this is obviously @Olaf Seiler)
6 x Town & Country
Georg/BBTR
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And there are at least another 14 73s in other European countries, like this one in the UK. ;-)
46. Amazing. Can you share how you compiled the info?
I also wonder how many are in Finland. @furyfinn used to OEM one, perhaps he or @ImpJay may have a directory?
Edit: @Georg/DFL , the black car looks like the one @yabadaba bought a few years back — see this thread.
I also wonder how many are in Finland. @furyfinn used to OEM one, perhaps he or @ImpJay may have a directory?
Edit: @Georg/DFL , the black car looks like the one @yabadaba bought a few years back — see this thread.
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there is a huge amount of C-bodies in europe.
I do not follow 73 Chryslers at all.
The cars Georg mentioned are the ones he knows of in germany.
There will be more exspecially those who are hiding in garages since many years as well as people not active on social media.
I am sure if we would go through old pictures (on paper etc) we could identify even more.
Despite Germany there is a huge amount of fuselages in Finnland, too.
Steve (saforwardlook) has sold more than 30 Fusies to them and I have friends there, too and know there is a high demand and plenty of them around. Sweden has a huge amount, too even though they have way more slabs than fuselages but due to owning everything in huge amounts those are spread around well, too. The rest of western europe (Netherlands, Belgium, England, France) has their share, too.
Why do you think there are more Fuselage C-bodies attending a smalltown rural country meet in germany like the BBTR than do attend the biggest Mopar show in the world like Carlisle?
Carsten
I do not follow 73 Chryslers at all.
The cars Georg mentioned are the ones he knows of in germany.
There will be more exspecially those who are hiding in garages since many years as well as people not active on social media.
I am sure if we would go through old pictures (on paper etc) we could identify even more.
Despite Germany there is a huge amount of fuselages in Finnland, too.
Steve (saforwardlook) has sold more than 30 Fusies to them and I have friends there, too and know there is a high demand and plenty of them around. Sweden has a huge amount, too even though they have way more slabs than fuselages but due to owning everything in huge amounts those are spread around well, too. The rest of western europe (Netherlands, Belgium, England, France) has their share, too.
Why do you think there are more Fuselage C-bodies attending a smalltown rural country meet in germany like the BBTR than do attend the biggest Mopar show in the world like Carlisle?
Carsten
The fact that there would be 47 in a country of 80+ million Germans is not amazing, I agree. What is amazing is that there are 47 that Georg knows, when the list of known owners on FCBO is about half that for all countries (and that includes @Olaf Seiler and his cool GE7 2-door).
PS: I agree that Carlisle, for some reason, does not seem to attract that many C-bodies. Why, I know not. On the positive side, @sixpkrt has been successful at creating a very well-attended C-body meet near Chicago that should have 40-50 cars this year (including Ming, my 1973, if all goes according to plan). What it takes, in my view, is someone passionate and committed who organizes everything well and networks properly -- and Tim is just that kind of guy (that, plus he's fun -- and without fun no one would ever go or return).
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Does that mean 50 cars from all the c-body years?
Our BBTR meet applies exclusively the fuselage years!
Is there any web presence for the named c-body meet near Chicago?
I was going to insert the link then got distracted. It is called the 4th Annual C Body Show - August 1st
It used to be casually called "Volo" but Tim moved the venue this year. Pictures of last year's show at Volo start in this post.As far as I remember, the only 1973 was a green Plymouth. This year, Ming should be there -- Covid permitting. Here she is, ready to be prepped by @71Polara383.
Does that mean 50 cars from all the c-body years?
Not true anymore, there were two earlier "long roofs" this year
(one can see one here).
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Olaf Seiler
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I think that was an exception, but most participants only tolerated it, not wanted it.
P.S. Thx for the show address.
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