Every engine I have has been pirated out of something, that said, they were out of nothing special, rv's and pos cars going to the derby. I love when people say there are tons of these cars around. Where? I've had my Polara 10 years and have seen a dozen or so other cars near me. I hardly ever see formaldehyde or fuselage cars. Most have been crushed up here by yard owners who are brand x people. Although one mopar loving owner hooks a derby guy up with some pretty clean metal on a yearly basis. Poor guy cries like a baby when his cheating ways don't help him win, but he wins a lot. Oh yeah, he cheats. Sucks seeing old mopars get destroyed when there isn't that many left.