commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Bob to the rescue. Thank you, Bob.
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In case anyone wants to actually read a thorough evaluation of the consequences of the bailout, here is at least one news article that discusses a recent report from the Center for Automotive Research with their summary. The CAR is a widely funded organization so that bias from particular interests is minimized. It is much more balanced than one guy's video slanting all the facts from a non-existent baseline.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/12/09/gm-treasury-bailout-jobs-saved/3928767/
Also, Autoweek named its best new car and truck of the year award, and that went to the Chevrolet Corvette and the new Silverado pickup. They were both designed in the U.S. This would not have happened without cleaning out the bad management at GM, and that was done in almost one fell swoop through the bankruptcy. The first woman to be CEO of an automobile company ever anywhere in the world was also appointed this last week to take over at GM, replacing Dan Akerson who left early because his wife has cancer. I met with the new CEO once on a technical topic involving the Chevrolet Volt years ago and I must say she was astonishingly capable. She is also an engineer and a "car guy". They are in good hands. And over a million jobs were saved. This is a world industry now.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/12/09/gm-treasury-bailout-jobs-saved/3928767/
Also, Autoweek named its best new car and truck of the year award, and that went to the Chevrolet Corvette and the new Silverado pickup. They were both designed in the U.S. This would not have happened without cleaning out the bad management at GM, and that was done in almost one fell swoop through the bankruptcy. The first woman to be CEO of an automobile company ever anywhere in the world was also appointed this last week to take over at GM, replacing Dan Akerson who left early because his wife has cancer. I met with the new CEO once on a technical topic involving the Chevrolet Volt years ago and I must say she was astonishingly capable. She is also an engineer and a "car guy". They are in good hands. And over a million jobs were saved. This is a world industry now.
No problem Stan.
Soundcraftsman power amps were used by major bands for live concert performances and are still sought after by musicians worldwide.
I have had mine since 1984.
The SAE (Scientific Audio Electronics) Preamplifier/Equalizer that I have can drive two of those power amps simultaneously.
I have entertained parties on football fields in Germany with my equipment.
Soundcraftsman power amps were used by major bands for live concert performances and are still sought after by musicians worldwide.
I have had mine since 1984.
The SAE (Scientific Audio Electronics) Preamplifier/Equalizer that I have can drive two of those power amps simultaneously.
I have entertained parties on football fields in Germany with my equipment.
UAW, that's what it has to do with it. Nothing to do with you or the teamsters but it has an awful lot to do with unions.
And, calm down, Francis. ;)
Sorry, it's more like a $5,000 stereo & it's made in France.
Fratzog
Old Man with a Hat
So no one is concerned about the export of NA jobs to the far east?
72Fury
Senior Member
Really it's no wonder. My Uncle was an electrician at the GM plant in Ohio. As a kid, we would visit each year during Thanksgiving. He was always sucking up triple time. Any chance he got. Can't blame him.
Fratzog
Old Man with a Hat
You're describing a management problem. Make employees do their job on straight time.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Find me a US made computer and monitor and I'll buy it the next time I am in the market for one, regardless of price.
ON a smaller scale when I had the C body t shirts made up they were Made in America shirts....... ( accept for Bobs) I would rather buy the flag and the colors than save a nickel.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
But Stan, didnt you pull those quotes from the Union thread?.... just asking...........
patrick66
Old Man with a Hat
Say what??? Look at the VIN of ANY car or truck built since 1981 worldwide, and you will see the place of origin in the FIRST character of that VIN. For something truly built in China, you will see an "L" there. GM is building Buicks and Chevrolets in China for the Chinese market (Buick is the second most popular vehicle make there, BTW), but the Chinese are not exporting GM vehicles anywhere in the West. You have a link to an article about this???
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
You edited that quick
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I have Crutchfield banner ads with pictures of Focal speakers. Now that's capitalism, congrats.
Crutchfield could ***** & moan about how things used to be OR, they can evolve & continue to kick *** & dominate. Congrats to Crutchfield. Great American success story.
Evolve or die.
Crutchfield could ***** & moan about how things used to be OR, they can evolve & continue to kick *** & dominate. Congrats to Crutchfield. Great American success story.
Evolve or die.
When I did union work at the Great Lakes Naval base in Il, they had t-shirts with military logos and sayings, I went to buy one until I saw the tag that said it was made overseas, along with uniforms of the military after talking to the cadets. This is not a union, non-union debate anymore in America. Like I have always said from the beginning, If you get up every morning and give 100% you should make a livable wage. I believe in America and will always continue too. Be careful what you consider skilled and not skilled, is driving a big rig as skilled as welding chrome- moly heat treated pipe, or nailing shingles to a roof, or catching a criminal. The only way we will make America better is if we all understand that a honest days work deserves an honest days pay.
72Fury
Senior Member
Abuse of the system and how it was set up was the problem.
Is the problem.....
GM is the second largest automaker in the world, and for that to continue they much invest in China (the worlds' largest auto market) and other parts of the world with world class products. Toyota (the worlds' largest automaker) builds cars in the U.S. because it is less expensive than making them in Japan and shipping them here. It is a competitive cost issue. So it is with GM in China. The bailout meant that GM remains an American company headquartered in the U.S., where their profits will have the greatest impact. With no bailout, other companies would have taken GM's place, and then we would not have those profits or high quality jobs here. GM will make money in China and we will be better off for it. This is not exporting jobs to China.
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