What Is A Survivor?

[SportFury70]

The master cylinder is an aftermarket replacement, not original type.

Converted the car to power drums

 

[413]

So did you see any BFG radial T/A on 8” wheels in the survivor tent?

Tires were old, needed replacements

yes it needed tires, but for a survivor you put on the same size and type tire it came with, with original wheels and caps.

 

[SportFury70]

As long as you do not do an LS swap you won't get any grief here.

That definitely WILL NOT happen. We already have a 440 ready to go for it, just gotta put it in

 

[SportFury70]

So did you see any BFG radial T/A on 8” wheels in the survivor tent?

No the BFG's are very good tires and we like them a lot but I see your point too, it has to be like the cars above in the pictures.

 

[SportFury70]

Please mind you guys I am not nitpicking the car by any means, I was just wondering if it was a survivor or not because I personally thought it was with the paint and engine.

 

[413]

Yes it’s very cool and very original, nice shiny & solid body for your corner of the country. It’s not been rusted or wrecked and bonded back together. Just not a survivor Like the tent cars are. And that’s OK, it doesn’t need to be.

So drop in the 440 and have fun, that’s what it’s all About. It looks great with the buckets and console.

 

[SportFury70]

Yes it’s very cool and very original, nice shiny & solid body for your corner of the country. It’s not been rusted or wrecked and bonded back together

The car was a southern car all its life. We bought it in 2003 from North Carolina and drove it all the way back to Connecticut with little to no issues.

 

[SportFury70]

Just not a survivor Like the tent cars are.

But is it a survivor paint wise?

 

[SportFury70]

So drop in the 440 and have fun, that’s what it’s all About.

True it is about having fun indeed. The plan is to put the 440 in, put a trailer towing package (hitch) on like the one in the picture, and tow the other cars to shows with it and show both the wagon and whatever car is in tow.

 

[Wildaugust]

Nice wagon!


Just a question and a comment. How does a replacement windshield and/or other glass replacement affect the survivor status of a vehicle?

My car wouldn't be a survivor because it had already had bodywork and a complete repaint by the last owner. It does still have the original windshield, which got me wondering about glass.

 

[shooter65]

In my worthless opinion it all depends on what you want. 1'st it's a beautiful car and anyone would be proud to own/drive it, congratulations. As far as a survivor, I agree with most above that the interior makes it no longer a survivor. I've always felt a survivor has to have "survived" so other then minimal paint touch-up and wear items being replaced nothing else can be changed. That being said, if you want to put a 440 in it, go for it, it's no longer a survivor anyway. My personal preference would be to take it back to original, which is what I considered restored. I would love it if my Fury were a survivor but it needs too much work so I'm doing what I consider the next best thing, a proper restoration, everything back to as it came off the assembly line.

 

[SportFury70]

Nice wagon!


Just a question and a comment. How does a replacement windshield and/or other glass replacement affect the survivor status of a vehicle?

My car wouldn't be a survivor because it had already had bodywork and a complete repaint by the last owner. It does still have the original windshield, which got me wondering about glass.

Thank you for the compliment, I really appreciate that. Regarding your question, I am not quite sure. I would think glass would be mandatory saying that must be original, or if not original at least date code correct because I would think if the car gets hit that bad it's pretty much toast.

 

[LeBaron1973]

Nice wagon!


Just a question and a comment. How does a replacement windshield and/or other glass replacement affect the survivor status of a vehicle?

My car wouldn't be a survivor because it had already had bodywork and a complete repaint by the last owner. It does still have the original windshield, which got me wondering about glass.

I would think they wouldn't be considered, as reproductions with correct date codes are made and are often installed in high end restorations so glass doesn't count. Just my opinion that pretending 2020 glass is 1968 glass by having 1968 date codes etched onto it is dishonest, but then again you can get date coded spark plug leads etc so where do you draw the line between original factory and reproductions?

 

[LeBaron1973]

Thank you for the compliment, I really appreciate that. Regarding your question, I am not quite sure. I would think glass would be mandatory saying that must be original, or if not original at least date code correct because I would think if the car gets hit that bad it's pretty much toast.

In the sense that your wagon still exists it's a survivor, just not in the sense of as it left the factory.

Terms are specific like the term Classic- many folks consider any old car a classic, but the Classic Car Club of America consider a Classic to be from 1915 to 1948, usually an expensive high end car and only what that club consider an Approved Classic, but that definition only applies to the CCCA and the vehicles they decided to include on their list.

All the best with your 440 transport, enjoy the freedom to make your car yours not being limited to as it left the factory.

 

[SportFury70]

All the best with your 440 transport, enjoy the freedom to make your car yours not being limited to as it left the factory.

Thank you, I will hopefully document it here like I did with the interior when it happens

 

[SportFury70]

In the sense that your wagon still exists it's a survivor

That's very true as most of them were used in demo derbies. I think the wagons are starting to make a "comeback" as they say.

 

[cbarge]

As I mentioned,it is all in how you interpret it.
1966 300 sedan. A family heirloom.
Original paint,interior,motor,trans. The heads and intake were trashed. original engine has 300,000 miles on it!!
Had only one driver from 1966 to 2010,then his son Rene inherited it and still has today.. (Rene has the banana in his mouth and modern day straw hat.)
So is it a survivor? I thinks so but not enough to qualify to be in the tent at Carlisle--according to Ed,LOL!!
Dad with his car and the kids when were kids and now adults..
The car is still wearing the same tags for the past 47 years!!

 

[live4theking]

You've got a great wagon. Enjoy it for what it is, becoming rarer by the day. Other than my 68 NYER I'd love to have a 9 passenger 68 T&C.

 

[moparnutcase]

Not a C body but my '77 Cordoba is considered a survivor and has been displayed in the Survivor Tent at Carlisle. Except for tires,battery,air filter,fuel filter(original was still on car when purchased),and spark plugs everything else is as it left the factory including paint,top,interior,brakes,hoses,belts,etc. Of course it doesn't hurt that it has less than 14,000 original miles.

 

[hergfest]

If it still has 90% original paint, its a survivor.