Where was this '70 brochure photo shot?
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commando1
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Nope. Limestone. Never heard the term Greystone until you just said it
You have done well for yourself, then.
Limestone is what it's made out of. Greystone is a term, like brownstone but it must not be prevalent in the Boston or New England area. It's definitely used in Chicago area
Dowtown Detroit, Lafayette at Third. 1920's.
upper right is an example of turn of century "walkup"'residence that was disappearing by 1920's .. note the whole block was houses 20 yrs earlier.
by 1940 it was all commercial buildings. again brochure photo could be "metro" Detroit area somewhere but even then I dont recognize it.
maybe detmatt will bail us out
Dowtown Detroit, Lafayette at Third. 1920's.
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upper right is an example of turn of century "walkup"'residence that was disappearing by 1920's .. note the whole block was houses 20 yrs earlier.
by 1940 it was all commercial buildings. again brochure photo could be "metro" Detroit area somewhere but even then I dont recognize it.
maybe detmatt will bail us out
I didn't and don't doubt they are not around much any more and weren't even much earlier from being torn down. But I read you original post, before edit, to mean they weren't built in Detroit much after the 1900's ... thus the logic behind my comment and what I responded to.
yeah, i corrected typos in it (i was typing on my chicklet key smartphone) after i first wrote it.
i took no offense/disrespect from your observation. my post as edited WAS still imprecise -- your logic IS fine
all that to say, that combination of architectures in the brochure photo would have been hard to come by in 1970 in Detroit "proper", but could have been in one of the suburban cities.
yeah, i corrected typos in it (i was typing on my chicklet key smartphone) after i first wrote it.
i took no offense/disrespect from your observation. my post as edited WAS still imprecise -- your logic IS fine
all that to say, that combination of architectures in the brochure photo would have been hard to come by in 1970 in Detroit "proper", but could have been in one of the suburban cities.
Cheers Blue and let me say I love your historical posts and commentary on old Detroit and anything else you delve into.
Re the possibility that was Detroit, I meant the city and surroundings ... I think of all big cities as one big city even if the municipalities classify them differently
I inherited it. It's one of the properties I go maintain and will eventually sell, or rent. Sell will be better. I was fishing for someone to ask to see a pic hint ;0
Re the possibility that was Detroit, I meant the city and surroundings ... I think of all big cities as one big city even if the municipalities classify them differently
most people (me included) think of "Detroit" as one big metropolitan area (it is), even though the area is made of up of dozens of contiguous cities with different names/unique histories.
you say that name - "Detroit" - and people know where you're talking about for our purposes here in this thread. So yes, the "Greater Detroit" area still may reveal this location to us.
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Limestone, of course. Thanks for correcting me. But I still refuse to believe it was shot at the Paramount studios. Or any studio for that matter.
The photo must have been shot sometime late in the summer of 1969. The building seems to be in good shape, or at least it was back then.
There would seem to be a parkway in front of the houses. Any ideas?
The photo must have been shot sometime late in the summer of 1969. The building seems to be in good shape, or at least it was back then.
There would seem to be a parkway in front of the houses. Any ideas?
I was hoping @detmatt would comment. I'm pretty sure he was part of the last discussion on this picture. Am I the only one who remember discussing this before?
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Sorry gents, I got nothin'...you're saying we actually talked about this particular picture before???
Absolutely. But I can't find it ... probably popped up in the middle of a thread about something else.
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My gut says not Detroit but if it is I might even guess that it's a private residence in one of the Grosse Points.
yeah, gotta be some affluent "suburban" neighborhood like that. (parentheticals/photos are for our non local members
)Private Home examples, Lake Shore Drive, Grosse Pointes in Michigan
I thought of Indian Village or Boston-Edison or Palmer Woods ( "old money" enclaves of private homes in Detroit "proper"), or one of the pads around the Manoogian Mansion (the Detroit Mayor's official residence), or Bloomfield Hills (a suburb where a lot of the auto execs/high rollers built houses in 1920's).
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Anyway, I just couldn't account for that building in the left of the brochure photo, which more likely would be a downtown commerical building like the the Detroit Athletic Club, or the St. Regis Hotel by the old GM building, but then the "walkup" next door to it would have been outta place.
anyway, thanks for weighing in matt,. hope that old thread turns up tallhair
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The whole driveway looking situation that the car is parked on is the tricky part.
commando1
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It's in front of the U.S.Consulate in Kazakhstan. It's very obvious....
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That's gotta be it.
if not Kazahkstan or Detroit, the architecture reminds me of three places. NYC, Washinton DC, or Philadelphia.
My bet would be on NYC: (1) Chrysler Building was there so various corporate departments involved in marketing/advertising could STILL have been there (the Chrysler HQ moved to Michigan in the 1950's) including the "Mad Men" agencies .. and (2) that city was replete with buildings of this style and condition in 1970 .. plus that "driveway" to deal with valet/VIP parking at wherever this place is given NYC traffic.
I'd look for places (the DOZENS of former mansions of turn of the 20th century titans in business) in Manhattan between the Battery and wherever Central Park starts, or Park, Fifth, Madison, Lexington Avenues (Upper East Side) ... but that's literally thousands of places if you include the commercial businesses. Here are examples though of the houses:
1. Warburg House (Jewish Museum of New York) – 82,000 square feet
C. P. H. Gilbert designed this house for Felix Warburg, a German-born banker, in 1908, and it has remained the largest mansion in Manhattan for over a hundred years. This is partly thanks to expansions added in 1963 and 1993, but the Warburg House was undoubtedly a tremendously large building for a single family in New York. Warburg’s widow donated the building to the Jewish Museum in 1944, who still occupy the building today.
2. Carnegie Mansion (Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum) – 56,368 square feet
The famous Scottish-born steel man Andrew Carnegie lived in the second-largest mansion in Manhattan, built in 1903. The building is so prominent that the surrounding Upper East Side neighborhood is called Carnegie Hill. Carnegie reportedly asked for the mansion to be “the most modest, plainest, and roomiest house in New York,” which seems ridiculous when you look at the gorgeous Georgian facade. The building now houses the National Design Museum, part of the Smithsonian family of museums, currently under renovation.
3. Otto Kahn House (Convent of the Sacred Heart) – 50,316 square feet
Modeled after the Palazzo della Cancelleria in Rome, the Otto and Addie Kahn Mansion was finished in 1918. Kahn was a German-Jewish banker like Warburg, but after his death, the house was sold to the Convent of the Sacred Heart, who still use the building as a Catholic girl’s school today. As you might expect from a school housed in a historic Upper East Side mansion (actually two historic mansions, with the neighboring James Burden House being the other), school tuition is sky-high: Sending your child there for a year in third grade would cost $42,810
4. James Duke House (New York University) – 31,089 square feet
James Buchanan Duke (as in Duke Power) had this mansion built in 1912, and it’s a relatively modest 30,000 square feet. The building was inspired by the Hotel Labottiere in Bordeaux. The building was donated in 1952 to New York University’s Institute of Fine Arts, who still occupy both the Duke House and the Stephen Chan house across the street.
5. HENRY T SLOANE HOUSE & ATTACHED OLIVER GOULD HOUSE, Near the DAKOTA (yeah, that one)
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Or if Paramount or WB studio lot (which i doubt too) .. we'd need a Chrysler/ad agency exec who was there for the ad shoot .. impossible to know who that would have been.
My bet would be on NYC: (1) Chrysler Building was there so various corporate departments involved in marketing/advertising could STILL have been there (the Chrysler HQ moved to Michigan in the 1950's) including the "Mad Men" agencies .. and (2) that city was replete with buildings of this style and condition in 1970 .. plus that "driveway" to deal with valet/VIP parking at wherever this place is given NYC traffic.
I'd look for places (the DOZENS of former mansions of turn of the 20th century titans in business) in Manhattan between the Battery and wherever Central Park starts, or Park, Fifth, Madison, Lexington Avenues (Upper East Side) ... but that's literally thousands of places if you include the commercial businesses. Here are examples though of the houses:
1. Warburg House (Jewish Museum of New York) – 82,000 square feet
C. P. H. Gilbert designed this house for Felix Warburg, a German-born banker, in 1908, and it has remained the largest mansion in Manhattan for over a hundred years. This is partly thanks to expansions added in 1963 and 1993, but the Warburg House was undoubtedly a tremendously large building for a single family in New York. Warburg’s widow donated the building to the Jewish Museum in 1944, who still occupy the building today.
2. Carnegie Mansion (Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum) – 56,368 square feet
The famous Scottish-born steel man Andrew Carnegie lived in the second-largest mansion in Manhattan, built in 1903. The building is so prominent that the surrounding Upper East Side neighborhood is called Carnegie Hill. Carnegie reportedly asked for the mansion to be “the most modest, plainest, and roomiest house in New York,” which seems ridiculous when you look at the gorgeous Georgian facade. The building now houses the National Design Museum, part of the Smithsonian family of museums, currently under renovation.
3. Otto Kahn House (Convent of the Sacred Heart) – 50,316 square feet
Modeled after the Palazzo della Cancelleria in Rome, the Otto and Addie Kahn Mansion was finished in 1918. Kahn was a German-Jewish banker like Warburg, but after his death, the house was sold to the Convent of the Sacred Heart, who still use the building as a Catholic girl’s school today. As you might expect from a school housed in a historic Upper East Side mansion (actually two historic mansions, with the neighboring James Burden House being the other), school tuition is sky-high: Sending your child there for a year in third grade would cost $42,810
4. James Duke House (New York University) – 31,089 square feet
James Buchanan Duke (as in Duke Power) had this mansion built in 1912, and it’s a relatively modest 30,000 square feet. The building was inspired by the Hotel Labottiere in Bordeaux. The building was donated in 1952 to New York University’s Institute of Fine Arts, who still occupy both the Duke House and the Stephen Chan house across the street.
5. HENRY T SLOANE HOUSE & ATTACHED OLIVER GOULD HOUSE, Near the DAKOTA (yeah, that one)
72nd Street (Manhattan) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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To me Grosse Point MI would be a sound guess if there weren't two separate buildings in the background: the windows are on different level. Therefore the floors are on different levels, too. I have never seen a large private residence that would have been deliberately designed so akwardly. Therefore, there must be two separate plots. Townhouses built wall to wall to each other. Furthermore, there would seem to be a passageway between the buildings, leading to a backyard. Therefore, a city building. - What do you think?
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