67440NewYorker
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I just had a 74 Chrysler Town and Country fall in my lap. Will the the front disc brakes and control arms work on my 67 New Yorker? My 67 is a factory Budd brake car
Budd brake question
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The BUDD disc brakes were only in use for 1966 - 1968 (or it might be '69), but the brakes on that car will NOT fit your '67 New Yorker. My '67 New Yorker is a DRUM brake car, but since I re-did them with correct/OEM brake shoes, and proper adjustment, they work fine for me. The BUDD parts can be a headache, but are worth it in terms of stoppability. Good luck.
You can also source a '69-'73 C-Body disc setup and go that route. You will need to replace the spindle and lower control arms on you vehicle with the '69-'73 parts. The master cylinder and brake booster will also need to be replaced. The correct Bendix dual brake booster '68-'70 is getting hard to find. and you will probably have to have a junk yard unit rebuilt.
Dave
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So, the 74 brake parts won't work on my car? Has to be 69-73? Its a complete car and everything is there.
RemCharger
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Maybe someone can correct me if necessary. I thought you had to use a 73 spindle only, to change a 67 68 drum car
The Budd Brake systems use a different spindle and LCA. On a drum conversion, only the spindle needs to be changed. Chrysler went to a different brake system in '74 with a new caliper and mount. It might be possible to make the '74 system work if you changed everything, that is one I never tried. I am sure that the '74 booster will not fit because the shift linkage and valve cover on a big block will not clear.
Dave
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Hmmm. Well I suppose I gotta get the car home and start ripping it apart. The T&C is rough but it's all there at least.
bigmoparjeff
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The design of the lower ball joints is completely different between the two cars. I don't believe anyone has ever posted any information on trying to install a formal lower control arm on a slab car. That would be the only way that the swap would work. Both cars use the same upper ball joint, so the formal spindle will connect to the slab upper control arm. It doesn't cost you anything other than time to give it a try.
I've always wondered if a formal spindle could be used on a '67-'73 Imperial, as they have similar front suspensions and share both upper and lower ball joints. I have all the parts to try it, but never the time.
Jeff
I've always wondered if a formal spindle could be used on a '67-'73 Imperial, as they have similar front suspensions and share both upper and lower ball joints. I have all the parts to try it, but never the time.
Jeff
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I just got the car home tonight. Its going to go under the knife soon. But im just trying to be somewhat proactive. My Budd brakes are awesome but I know one day somthing is going to happen. I have even contemplated buying a drum brake setup and then disc brake swapping that.
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You have the Budd system and think it’s awesome so just fix it when it needs fixing. It might be an expensive brake job but worth it and unless you’re driving over 5K mikes a year you likely won’t need to touch them again for a decade or more.
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I have been driving the car more and more recently. I just know how hard Budd parts are to come by. But I have this parts sitting in my yard now so im gonna get the good parts off and do some research to see if some way I can retro fit these parts on
A lot of people have the calipers "sleeved" with brass, or stainless, thereby curing the rust issue. Keep an eye out for pads, as well, they ARE out there.
cbarge
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@mobileparts has all budd disc brake parts.
I bought pads and rotors last fall from him.
Knowing their limited availability, my parts are on the shelf for when the time comes.
I drive my 67 Monaco which has Budd disc brakes.
I love the brakes on my car and worth the expense given the rarity of my Grace.
Calipers can be rebuilt.
I bought pads and rotors last fall from him.
Knowing their limited availability, my parts are on the shelf for when the time comes.
I drive my 67 Monaco which has Budd disc brakes.
I love the brakes on my car and worth the expense given the rarity of my Grace.
Calipers can be rebuilt.
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