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The factory 301 intake was used on the 383 HP like on a Road Runner. compared to a 66 4bbl intake the later one has raised intake runners and larger ports. It flows better than the 66 piece. The Eddy performer alloy intake has similar runners but for a LOT more money.
Luckily, B/RB intakes are "dry" and can be had for 50 bux each.
A good simple hot tanking and sand blast then good to go.
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Nice ride CBARGE! Thanks for that info, however with your setup I'd not only have to change the intake, carb and heads, but also the exhaust mani (if you're not using the logs which I doubt) and add another $1,000 for the TTi duals. And since my motor is stock @ 9.2 compression 270 hp that would have to include the pistons and cam too which is the whole kitchen including the sink! At least I wouldn't have to do my dizzy since I already installed Summits Electronic Mopar 850004 LOL!
 
The reasons I went with 452 heads on the 66 300 are despite the open chamber design,they have bigger valves,hardened valve seats and the slight drop in compression is an advantage considering today's corn swill called gas. Plus the 301 intake ports are better match to the 452's which are essentially the same as the 906 heads.
452's are cheap,still plentiful,and even with a rebuilt set they are still cheaper than Edelebrock B/RB heads.
That and the original 516 heads were totally crapped out and had burnt valves.
 
Nice ride CBARGE! Thanks for that info, however with your setup I'd not only have to change the intake, carb and heads, but also the exhaust mani (if you're not using the logs which I doubt) and add another $1,000 for the TTi duals. And since my motor is stock @ 9.2 compression 270 hp that would have to include the pistons and cam too which is the whole kitchen including the sink! At least I wouldn't have to do my dizzy since I already installed Summits Electronic Mopar 850004 LOL!

Still running the 66 lo-po exhaust manifolds. no leaks and bolted right up no mods.

The bottom end of the #'s matching 383 has 290,000 miles on it.
I basically did a top end rebuild without pulling the motor. All bolt on schtuff no mods.
I have the Summit B electronic ignition and dizzy in the 68 Newport and I agree it works great!
 
I have always liked the orientation of the Tarantula and Torker intakes, of more equal cyl-to-cyl mixture distribution. BUT you also get the issues related to single-plane vs dual-plane intakes with them. Like #7 cyl firing right after #5 cyl and allegedly getting a little less mixture as a result (as they pull from the same area of the plenum). Dual planes don't have that issue, or to the same extent.

For the stock rpm range, I'd be inclined toward the normal Edelbrock dual plane Performer intake. Carb would be between a 625cfm AVS or a (approx.) 600cfm STREET Demon (which can be had with a phenolic float bowl for that nostalgie ThermoQuad look, but without it being a spreadbore carb.

It would be nice to upgrade the cam to later 383 4bbl specs, BUT the old 252 degree cam (383/270 2bbl in '66) was the same cam specs as the Sport Fury 350 2x4bbl eng in '58. If it's the later lower compression '71 383 2bbl (with the Holley 2210 2bbl rather than the earlier Carter BBD or Stromberg WWC-3), it's already got the 256/260 383 4bbl cam from '66+. Might be neater to add a set of HP exhaust manifolds and 2.50 dual exhaust with '72 Imperial mufflers (same flow as the OEM Street Hemi muffler, but in the larger C-body size, with 2.50 pipe).

There are some better and newer cam profiles out there, but you'd still be in the same basic duration area with them. Assymetrical lobe shapes can have "more area under the lift curve" for more power, but that's your decision of spending money for not a huge power increase (over the stock cam) in a street vehicle. The 440HP cam might be a decent option, though, just depends upon the weight of the vehicle, the rear axle ratio, etc. Got to consider the COMPLETE package for the best results. Better to have more torque and "highway gears" than the "joy" of a 5800rpm power peak with lower rear gears to make THAT work.

Your decision . . .

CBODY67

The regular non RPM Performer is lighter than the stock iron one and that's about the only advantage it has.

Kevin
 
As usual you're quick to correct and you're absolutely right - I got answered what I asked. My bad, what I asked and what I actually meant were two different questions. But hey, I thought you always read between the lines LOL!!!
OK. I was trying to clear out any non-relevant clutter. :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for your input FURYGT. I couldn't agree with you more in your synopsis. I stated the engine was a stock 383 that came with a 2-barrel and that's the basis of what I have to work with. Since it is stock the reality is I'm really dealing with low compression pistons, a non performance cam, small exhaust valve closed chamber heads, log exhaust manifolds with single exhaust. All that said I agree that changing just the intake and a carb probably wouldn't be very cost effective. Those were my thoughts initially, but I wanted to get feed back from those with more experience. Reading through everyone's posts most have the 440's or HiPo 383's which by factory are already upgraded, but I was really wanting to hear from a member that had a similar configuration as I and see what they've experienced.

My "survivor" (Green) 68 Sport Fury is a factory 383-2V car that a previous owner put a factory 4-V intake on, an Eddy 600 CFM AFB style carburetor, electronic ignition and duel exhaust with the 2-V log manifolds and I love how that car drives. With an open 3.23 rear diff the car runs high 15's in the quarter. My 2 cents is when you can afford it, upgrade to duals.
 
My "survivor" (Green) 68 Sport Fury is a factory 383-2V car that a previous owner put a factory 4-V intake on, an Eddy 600 CFM AFB style carburetor, electronic ignition and duel exhaust with the 2-V log manifolds and I love how that car drives. With an open 3.23 rear diff the car runs high 15's in the quarter. My 2 cents is when you can afford it, upgrade to duals.

I assume the 2-V and 4-V were typo's and you meant 2-B (brl) and 4-B (brl)?
If so then the PO upgrades were an Eddy 600 CFM AFB carb, EI and Dual Exhaust with the factory log exhaust mani's? Do you have the intake number available? That seems pretty darn good for just a carb and dual exhaust upgrade.
 
I assume the 2-V and 4-V were typo's and you meant 2-B (brl) and 4-B (brl)?
If so then the PO upgrades were an Eddy 600 CFM AFB carb, EI and Dual Exhaust with the factory log exhaust mani's? Do you have the intake number available? That seems pretty darn good for just a carb and dual exhaust upgrade.

No, just another way of saying it. 2-V = 2 Venturi as each throttle bore (barrel) size also has a venture size.

Yes, Eddy 600 CFM electric choke carb, EI, Duals and then I swapped in an open 3.23 rear gear which took 2 - 3 10ths off the ET compared to the factory 2.76 rear gear and this is with street tires and wheel spin.

The intake is factory '68 383 4 barrel intake casting #2806301. Casting #2206000 is the '66 383 4 barrel intake, which is just fine for you since your engine is a '66. I am not sure what the difference is between the two intakes.
 
No, just another way of saying it. 2-V = 2 Venturi as each throttle bore (barrel) size also has a venture size.

Yes, Eddy 600 CFM electric choke carb, EI, Duals and then I swapped in an open 3.23 rear gear which took 2 - 3 10ths off the ET compared to the factory 2.76 rear gear and this is with street tires and wheel spin.

The intake is factory '68 383 4 barrel intake casting #2806301. Casting #2206000 is the '66 383 4 barrel intake, which is just fine for you since your engine is a '66. I am not sure what the difference is between the two intakes.

My casting #2205968 is stated for a 383 4-barrel '62-'67 as of the list per this link - Mopar Casting Numbers - MyMopar.com - Mopar Part Numners

How would I find what gearing this wagon has?

According to data from line #3, stock will do 17.9 in 1/4 mile. With just those 4 upgrades shaving 2 secs off the ET is pretty amazing.
  1. Detailed specs review of 1966 Chrysler Town&Country Wagon 383 V-8 Firepower TorqueFlite offered since September 1965 for North America U.S.
  2. Other specs can be viewed within the above link. I tried to copy/paste, but it ended up showing info of a 1991 BMW...
 
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I don’t agree there’s no benefit to an intake and carb on your otherwise stock engine. As much as if you added 2.5” duals, the best factory iron heads, and a purple shaft cam? No, of course not.

But adding an aluminum four barrel intake combo is a tried and true path to a bit more power.
 
I don’t agree there’s no benefit to an intake and carb on your otherwise stock engine. As much as if you added 2.5” duals, the best factory iron heads, and a purple shaft cam? No, of course not.

But adding an aluminum four barrel intake combo is a tried and true path to a bit more power.
Thanks for your input. One drawback of going with one of the aftermarket aluminum intakes is I wouldn’t be able to use my factory air due
I don’t agree there’s no benefit to an intake and carb on your otherwise stock engine. As much as if you added 2.5” duals, the best factory iron heads, and a purple shaft cam? No, of course not.

But adding an aluminum four barrel intake combo is a tried and true path to a bit more power.
Thanks for your input. All things will be considered and I’ll post my results whichever path I take.
 
Bottom line is........the budget. Anyone here can suggest a ton of add-on parts right down to a complete crate engine.

From what I have read, it seems you want to get your best bang for the buck and keep it basic & simple. About right?

So go with what most of us did with any car "back in the day." Add a better exhaust system as you will not benefit any engine add-ons if the exhaust won't flow. Dual exhaust with a larger sized pipes and free flowing mufflers would be a minimum and factory type cast iron HP manifolds or headers of any type are always preferred, but headers can lead to fitment problems needing to be overcome with the big hammer technique - which by the way has been proven to affect nothing in loss of HP, so hammer away. So my first improvement would be the exhaust system.

Then the intake system would be next on my list. This would include the carb, intake, and air cleaner assembly. You want what is called a "dual plane" intake for the street. Provides good manners for all kinds of driving and maintains a high port velocity for good throttle response at all RPM's. Typically will work from idle on up to 5-5,500 RPM's. Stay away from the "single plane" intakes unless you have an engine that can take advantage of them which is typically a higher RPM engine.

The Edlebrock Performer might be a better bet over the RPM Performer which has a taller mounting at the carb to enhance higher RPM's. BUT, as you stated, won't work with your AC. That said, you can "clean up" your stock 4Bbl intake by gasket matching the ports and smoothing out any rough casting lines or bumps that are accessible with a high speed die grinder and carbide cutter. This will increase air flow and this is what you want for more FREE HP.

You can also experiment with a carb spacer to add more HP. The "dual plane" manifold splits the carb, the left front/rear barrels feed one side of the engine while the right barrels feed the other. Raise the carb up with an open spacer, each side of the engine now feed off of all 4 barrels - the left and the right, in effect giving you a larger carburetor without getting one. This works providing you have the needed clearance between hood and top of air cleaner or get a low profile air cleaner to make the necessary clearance.

Personally, I think a 600CFM carb is too small for a 383. I would want a 650CFM as a minimum, but really go with a 750CFM having the vacuum secondaries (if it will fit your manifold base as some are "square port" while a 750 carb has slightly larger secondary bores. Some manifolds can be opened up to match if enough material is available). Vacuum secondaries compensates the engine in that they only open as the engine needs the extra air/fuel. It creates a smoother and better transition on a basic street engine. If too big, the secondaries are only going to open enough as needed, but no doubt as RPM's build in the 383, the carb will keep up and provide the power needed. Too small a carb can starve the engine, so higher RPM's or better flowing intake will be a waste as it can peak earlier than the potential of the engine's power band.

I would get the largest and most unrestrictive air cleaner I could install. More air is more power. Get a spare factory air cleaner if you have to have it, and drill evenly spaced 1" holes all around the outside perimeter to allow for more air flow. Tell people it was a Nascar option. LOL

Your 9.2 compression with iron heads is about the most you want for a street engine with iron heads if using pump gas. As you start to hit 9.5, you begin to need higher octane gas through additives or racing gas. This means you want to be very careful with cam selection IF you choose to install a new cam grind. Their are many things involved when selecting a "street" cam. You don't want one that will capture/build more cylinder pressure and effectively raise your 9.2 compression even higher. So an engine having 8.4, 9.2, or 10.0 compression would each require a different matching grind for street performance. There are many factors that go into a good choice and it is best not to rely on the recommendations of others, but let a cam grinder/manufacturer suggest a cam for your specific application. Choose the wrong cam, and the engine could be a slug nor match all the improvements you have made to the engine. The cam, in my opinion, it the most important piece in the engine and then you can build around it once you know what you want your engine/car to do.

I would also add to this list 2500 RPM stall converter. I would get what is called a "tight" converter, one that has little slip when using light/part throttle and comes on strong when you nail the gas. I used a company called Edge Racing Converters ( 727 : Edge Racing Converters, More Horsepower with More Torque Guaranteed! ) for my brother's 904 transmission behind a 360CI SixPack engine. It worked as claimed. I have a factory 2500 RPM converter behind my 360CI and it slips a whole lot more and I would go with one of these converters to replace it in an instant and probably will when I rebuild the trans at some point. This will also improve performance, especially at a stop light take-off under full throttle.
 
I’d go the carb route and from the looks of it you are. This is coming from someone who did loads of research, installed a holly sniper efi on my 66, and ran around for a year with it.

Was it nice? Yup. She ran great and sounded mean up when you got into it. In the end though, I just felt like I was committing a sin putting the Sniper on. So after my winter of rebuilding the trans, and putting a new cam in, I went with a Holly Quick Fuel hot rod 735 with vacuum secondaries. Honestly the only difference I can find so far is that the Sniper holds the idle AFR smack where I ask it to. The QF is that good and I did minimal tweaking. I also feel like I atoned for my sins.
 
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