1969 Plymouth Fury "Pursuit" coupe

[moonrunner1972]

I learned about the rubber mats the hard way with my 70' Dart Swinger. The rubber mat just holds the floor rust together until you remove it for the restoration, then it disintegrates before your eyes.

 

[amazinblue82]

My fear is it looks pretty rusty. Look at the right top rear 1/4 & near the roof. E85 code engine.

That rubber flooring holds the moisture in. That coupled with the weeds means the floors have gotta be toast.

i'm with these fellas (and moonrunner1972 too) on the condition question. it may be fine but given its placement outdoors and on bare ground too it could have major rust issues. i have seen so many sitting like this and had them go both ways on me.

minor point to some people but for me i only tried to grab the hottest mill that a particular department purchased in a given year, so everything I had/have was an "E86" '69(?) through '78 (only the B-bodies by then). nothing wrong with other engines..my thing was the pursuit-class cars.

if it can be saved, and if it has some known history, and because its a "coupe" cop car (you don't see many of those, as several folks mentioned above) I hope somebody takes a shot at it.

 

[1970cat]

this one is being talked about on the drydock also

http://cbodydrydock.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?170377.30

 

[Fratzog]

Hope someone picks this one up. It would be interesting to know the specs on the 440.

 

[polara71]

I learned about the rubber mats the hard way with my 70' Dart Swinger. The rubber mat just holds the floor rust together until you remove it for the restoration, then it disintegrates before your eyes.

same as the trunk floor mats... I noticed this problem thirty five years ago when washing dads four door. That water never goes away once it gets under there. Trunk dress up cars fare way better...

 

[Fury Pursuit]

i'm with these fellas (and moonrunner1972 too) on the condition question. it may be fine but given its placement outdoors and on bare ground too it could have major rust issues. i have seen so many sitting like this and had them go both ways on me.

minor point to some people but for me i only tried to grab the hottest mill that a particular department purchased in a given year, so everything I had/have was an "E86" '69(?) through '78 (only the B-bodies by then). nothing wrong with other engines..my thing was the pursuit-class cars.

if it can be saved, and if it has some known history, and because its a "coupe" cop car (you don't see many of those, as several folks mentioned above) I hope somebody takes a shot at it.

The car being discussed IS a Pursuit car, PK21K and has a K code 440 Commando 360 HP Pursuit engine per Chysler and the Police fleet catalog. Having an E85 engine does NOT mean the car is not a Pursuit car, it clearly is. The factory HP rating is 15 less than the E86.

 

[amazinblue82]

Having an E85 engine does NOT mean the car is not a Pursuit car ...

yes of course, engines other than E86 were in "pursuit" cars (eg. the 383-HP's too). my incompletely worded point referred to what I collect: "my thing was the pursuit class cars that are E86-equipped" should have been the complete sentence. thanks for pointing that out.

 

[polara66hardtop]

Chrysler made several versions of the 727. The 383 two barrel was the light duty, 440 was heavier, the 440 HP was the heaviest of the RB. Hemi was different again. if that is an HP 440, it has the R.T transmission. That drivetrain would be worth some money.

 

[tallhair]

How can you tell them apart and what are the differences .. VIN? More clutches? Heavier duty clutch band? Valve body?

 

[polara66hardtop]

different 727 transmissions

The part # will identify which application,. basically the 383 had six pinions, lighter clutches, etc. The 383 four barrel and 440 single exhaust had seven pinions, and more heavy duty parts inside. The Roadrunner/Superbee 68-69 and 67-69 440 HP had eight pinions, more heavy duty parts. The Hemis had eight, but I believe a different barrel as well, more clutches, bronze bushing,etc. I believe the 69-70 440 six barrel also had a variation all to it's own as well. The details are in the factory parts book, as I have exhausted my knowledge of the group. Things changed in 70', so to be sure a person has the HP trans, they need to look at the part number. I found a 70' VIN# correct 383 four barrel trans behind a 440 hp one time, and a 23 spline four speed behind a 71' 440HP engine. so Chrysler was quietly trying to save money, I guess. We all know what path this led to, sadly.

 

[65sportfury]

It does have rust issues, probably a supervisors car. Even out west I've only seen a couple of them. Being complete is a real plus.

 

[tallhair]

Thanks polara66

 

[varin]

That is why restoration is fun to do. And nowadays you can buy floors and weld them in. As for the rust on the roof that is one of the places these big boys rust at right off the bat.

I am dealing right now with a 69 Sport Fury hardtop down there with mildew and carpet mold and the floors had no rust at ALL. And my car came from upstate New York where it sat in the open: it was originally a New Mexico car-still has the plates in fact. My biggest headache has been the interior and the dash.

 

[Fury Pursuit]

yes of course, engines other than E86 were in "pursuit" cars (eg. the 383-HP's too). my incompletely worded point referred to what I collect: "my thing was the pursuit class cars that are E86-equipped" should have been the complete sentence. thanks for pointing that out.

No Problem, thank you for saving all those E86 cars!

 

[Aidan1976]

Hello all,

A good friend on C-Body Dry Dock has inspected the car for me, and I am seriously contemplating buying the car. It certainly needs a LOT, and it would seem to be a higher spec car being that it has air-con and roll up/down rear windows. I am just assessing the sheet metal that it needs from my 2 parts cars ('69 Sedan and '71 Hardtop). The worst rust is around the bottom right of the rear window, I will attempt to ad a pic.

Stay tuned, I would really like to save this car.

Aidan

 

[amazinblue82]

that's good news Aidan, glad somebody you trust put their eyes on it. hope it works out for you in the end. cheers mate.

 

[Aidan1976]

Thanks man. The reason this car interests me so much is that apart from being a huge American police car fan, this vehicle seems the perfect mix I guess between the 2 cars that I have been chasing (I have given up lol): my black '75 Government Fury and the '70 Sport Fury GT-S/23.

I love the look of the plain jane Fuselage cop cars, so brutal. And a 2-door is simply awesome. From the photos it is no short term project I can tell you (rust in floors and rear frame rails, dash pretty bad too), but I feel this would be a keeper.

Appears complete, apart from the radiator (fan and shroud are sitting on the front seat). Engine is seized. Body colour appears to have been dark brown originally (can see the colour in the jambs with the doors open). Painted top, as per the fender tag?

I will update Gents

 

[cm23uoc]

Close the deal before some lurker who profits from this information jumps on the wagon, it happened before !
.....

 

[commando1]

Hello all,

A good friend on C-Body Dry Dock has inspected the car for me,

Best of luck. I'd like to see this one work out.

 

[Aidan1976]

Thanks guys, that's definitely my aim! A BIG project, but quite like it. Here's some photos of the BAD areas:









A lot of work, but could do worse things......