4 speeds...

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

Looking for I formation on the A833's.

Here's what I'm looking to know, what are the exact differences between the B body and C body unit?

I'm really having a hankering to cut a hole in a trans hump.

Nick

 

[300rag]

Looking for I formation on the A833's.

Here's what I'm looking to know, what are the exact differences between the B body and C body unit?

I'm really having a hankering to cut a hole in a trans hump.

Nick

I have no answer for you, but "dad" ( @commando1 ) would be proud.

 

[Fury Pursuit]

They are the same, sans the shifter.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

A, B body only trans 69 and earlier will fit or is the same as a C body. The B&E body 70 up trans will also work, difference being the 70 up tailshaft housing has a bolt flange at the rear for E & 71 up B body mounted shifters, you will use the front mount. The later transmissions have a better lock out mechanism, keeping you out of 2 gears at once. 64 has the ball and trunnion flange at the rear(leave these for resto guys).
A body has shifter bolt flange in the middle of a shorter tailshaft FYI

 

[commando1]

I'm really having a hankering to cut a hole in a trans hump.

Nick

That's my boy.
We'll start here.
Brewer's Performance - Mopar A833 4-Speed Transmission and Component Specialists

 

[commando1]

Chrysler A-833 four speed manual transmissions — history, tech, and swap

 

[70bigblockdodge]

@'69FuryIIIConvertible The trans on the last line on Stan's chart is the trans I have in my '68 Charger. It won't win any drag races but it is a absolute blast to drive and with 3.23/3.55 rear gear 75-80 mph mid 2k cruising is unbeatable.
Just be mindful of 4000 rpm sidesteps of the clutch it not going to last long. I can attest (after this years Mopar Nats) that it will take quite a few and survive.

 

[commando1]

The tranny in the 2nd box down is what went into the NYB.

 

[Polara_500]

The tranny in the 2nd box down is what went into the NYB.

Do you happen to know if there's any difference in the innards between that one and the ball/trunnion version in the 64/5 models?

 

[4spd300J]

The only difference between the C & B body transmissions in '64-65 with the ball & trunnion is the rear mount pad on the tail housing. The B's have a 2-5/8" bolt center and the C's have a 4" bolt center. I put a '68 B body four speed in my '63 Chrysler and everything worked out very well.

 

[65Fury440]

64 and 65 has the ball and trunnion flange at the rear(leave these for resto guys). And the really cheap guys who already had a driveshaft built for a B&T, rather than do the smart thing, like get an 18 spline.
FYI

 

[Gerald Morris]

I like the 75 - 87 overdrive units myself! Such a transmission, combined with an RV cam equipped 400 or 440 and a 2:76 rear end would lope along the highway very economically, though it won't burn rubber at traffic lights.....

 

[twostick]

If I was doing a 4spd C-body, I'd use the 3.09 1st gear A-body box with the B-body output shaft and tailstock with a 3.23 rear.

Kevin

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

My basic plan is this, the below car, GT clone, mild 440, 4 gear...

I've wanted to do a 4 gear C body for a while, I just needed a good C Body roller for it...opportunity presented itself.

Stan what did you use for pedals?

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Fusies have a pedal box available as a 3 spd cars.
If you use a diaphragm clutch remove the over center spring, if using stock style 3 finger clutch leave the spring in. Treat that spring with respect it will bite.
I would use diaphragm pressure plate if starting from new.

 

[commando1]

My basic plan is this, the below car, GT clone, mild 440, 4 gear...

My boy.

 

[commando1]

Stan what did you use for pedals?

I adapted 80s era Jeep pedals to the Formal pedal bracket. A ton of fabricating on my part.
The 65-70 C-body pedals and bracket assy. weren't even a close match to Formal bracket.
And I don't care what anybody says:
1. A/B/E-BODY PEDALS WILL NOT WORK, and..
2. A/B/E humps are not adaptable.

You will have to fabricate your own Z-bar bracket that attaches to the stub frame.

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

I adapted 80s era Jeep pedals to the Formal pedal bracket. A ton of fabricating on my part.
The 65-70 C-body pedals and bracket assy. weren't even a close match to Formal bracket.
And I don't care what anybody says:
1. A/B/E-BODY PEDALS WILL NOT WORK, and..
2. A/B/E humps are not adaptable.

You will have to fabricate your own Z-bar bracket that attaches to the stub frame.

I assumed I would be doing some fabrication. It know where a set of 67 pedals from a power brake car are.

I also found this locally...which sparked the initial interest...

I just sold my 426 Hemi so I have some cash burning a hole in my pocket. I'm using my proceeds to purchase the 70 Fury and that will leave me enough to buy this 4spd..

 

[barnfind]

 

[65sporty]

My basic plan is this, the below car, GT clone, mild 440, 4 gear...

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I've wanted to do a 4 gear C body for a while, I just needed a good C Body roller for it...opportunity presented itself.

Stan what did you use for pedals?

I will be following, looks like a great project. How did I miss you having a 426 Hemi? I understand selling it to finance this, but a Hemi in this ride with a 4 speed.... Makes you wonder doesn't it.