'69 Fury III Convertible Build Thread- Project IVY

Well today was a good day, the weather is going to hold out tomorrow, so I'll see if by Monday I can't have the whole interior floor finished. And yes I only tacked up the panels so far on this section, the crappy looking area is where I will be putting the patch sitting on top of the tunnel on.
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Also tried out my Dog dishes on the rims I will be painting body color
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Nick
 
The patches look extremely well done. Take your time closing up the tacks and it will be great.

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Just as general advice, if you butt weld you should try to avoid to put the welds in the corners where bends are. Try to extend it up something like 1/2-3/4 of an inch into the bended area, gives higher stability to these patched areas.
You mentioned you use weld primer in overlapping areas already I think, which is a good idea; never had any rust issues again with such preparation.
 
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Too late, already using them. Seriously....what's a beginners "welding" kit look like...what's in it to get started?
You might try visiting the local miller welding store and seeing what they can offer as advice for a novice. I did that and they were very understanding and helpful. Plus you can see and put your hands on the equipment needed.
If you don't want new equipment to learn on at least you'll know what to look for on craigslist or where ever.
 
Gary, here's my 2 cents.
You need a MIG welder.
It needs to be a welder that runs off 220V, not 110.
Miller is too expensive, every one other than Lincoln or Hobart is garbage. Even the Eastwood one which is a relabeled Harbor Fright POS.
So make it Lincoln or Hobart (they are both the same manufacturer).
Buy a 24" minimum bottle, not those tiny ones that usually come as a package. Don't rent.
Buy an adjustable auto darkening helmet.
Buy a spool of .025 wire and many extra 025 tips. and a spool of .030 wire plus many extra 030 tips.
BUY A BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start collecting anything made of iron or steel. I buy bed rails at The Salvation Army for a couple of bucks and it makes the best angle iron.

Can you weld with a $125 Harbor Fright 110V gasless flux core welder? Yes? For about 10 minutes before you throw it out a window from frustration.
 
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You might try visiting the local miller welding store and seeing what they can offer as advice for a novice. I did that and they were very understanding and helpful. Plus you can see and put your hands on the equipment needed.
If you don't want new equipment to learn on at least you'll know what to look for on craigslist or where ever.

Thanks blue......"Miller" welding store...is that a chain?? Never heard of them.
 
Too late, already using them. Seriously....what's a beginners "welding" kit look like...what's in it to get started?

Gary, check with your local community college. My local CC does. A lot of them offer a beginner's welding class at night or weekends that are very affordable. That way you can get a feel for the equipment that is right for you and make you dangerous enough to work on metal.

Introduction to Arc Welding
An introduction to arc welding machines and accessories, oxyacetylene cutting equipment, and types and uses of electrodes. Learn flat welds, types of joint design (butt, lap and T-joints), basic welding symbols, and safety practices. Safety equipment and metal supplied during class time. Class size is limited to 7 students due to equipment constraints. Senior adult and disabled retiree tuition waivers apply. Transcript available.
Course: 25427 Tuition: $369 Course Fee: $100
Meeting Day(s): Mon., Thur. 2/4/2013 - 3/11/2013 Time: 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM 10 sessions
Location: Harford Technical High School Instructor: W. Fuentes

Course: 25428 Tuition: $369 Course Fee: $100
Meeting Day(s): Mon., Thur. 4/15/2013 - 5/16/2013 Time: 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM 10 sessions
Location: Harford Technical High School Instructor: W. Fuentes
 
Gary, here's my 2 cents.
You need a MIG welder.
It needs to be a welder that runs off 220V, not 110.
Miller is too expensive, every one other than Lincoln or Hobart is garbage. Even the Eastwood one which is a relabeled Harbor Fright POS.
So make it Lincoln or Hobart (they are both the same manufacturer).
Buy a 24" minimum bottle, not those tiny ones that usually come as a package. Don't rent.
Buy an adjustable auto darkening helmet.
Buy a spool of .025 wire and many extra 025 tips. and a spool of .030 wire plus many extra 030 tips.
BUY A BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Start collecting anything made of iron or steel. I buy bed rails at The Salvation Army for a couple of bucks and it makes the best angle iron.

Your 2 cents sounds more like 10 bucks to me cause I don't the first feaking thing about this.
I heard of Hobart, I worked in a Veterans retirement home years ago and they had these huge hobart pots, and hobart meat slicers, freezers.....same co.?
Don't slap me, but what the heck is a 24" bottle?? You threw me off with "don't rent".
Yes, book is a given.
Didn't know that about the sal army....how about good will?? Kinda the same.....there's one near me.
220v means I gotta make some changes to the load center out in the garage to get the 220v for a welding machine..only have 2 120v bus feeds.
 
Gary, check with your local community college. My local CC does. A lot of them offer a beginner's welding class at night or weekends that are very affordable. That way you can get a feel for the equipment that is right for you and make you dangerous enough to work on metal.

Introduction to Arc Welding
An introduction to arc welding machines and accessories, oxyacetylene cutting equipment, and types and uses of electrodes. Learn flat welds, types of joint design (butt, lap and T-joints), basic welding symbols, and safety practices. Safety equipment and metal supplied during class time. Class size is limited to 7 students due to equipment constraints. Senior adult and disabled retiree tuition waivers apply. Transcript available.
Course: 25427 Tuition: $369 Course Fee: $100
Meeting Day(s): Mon., Thur. 2/4/2013 - 3/11/2013 Time: 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM 10 sessions
Location: Harford Technical High School Instructor: W. Fuentes

Course: 25428 Tuition: $369 Course Fee: $100
Meeting Day(s): Mon., Thur. 4/15/2013 - 5/16/2013 Time: 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM 10 sessions
Location: Harford Technical High School Instructor: W. Fuentes
THnaks that makes lots of sense NYB....but I'd rather not set foot in another classroom again. Maybe I can find same on youtube...but then I guess I would need the equipment in front of me. Oy Vey
 
Your 2 cents sounds more like 10 bucks to me cause I don't the first feaking thing about this.
I heard of Hobart, I worked in a Veterans retirement home years ago and they had these huge hobart pots, and hobart meat slicers, freezers.....same co.?
Don't slap me, but what the heck is a 24" bottle?? You threw me off with "don't rent".
Yes, book is a given.
Didn't know that about the sal army....how about good will?? Kinda the same.....there's one near me.
220v means I gotta make some changes to the load center out in the garage to get the 220v for a welding machine..only have 2 120v bus feeds.

Sorry. On brands, there are GENERALLY three brands that are good quality and will last you forever. Miller, Hobart, and Lincoln. Miller is the best but expensive. Well worth it for any guy who welds a lot. Hobart and Lincoln brands are now made by the same manufacturer. They are affordable and are quality units with easy spare part availability. Almost everything else, you see is Chinese junk of the worst kind. They can NOT design a good welder. Summit, Eastwood, Harbor fright, and a zillion other places sell these "high quality work horses". Right. The horse arrives 98% dead.
Bottles are the gas tank you use with a MIG welder.
You weld with wire that is fed by the unit. Most popular thicknesses are .025 .030 .035 and .040. The BASE 220V Hobart/Lincoln welders can only handle up to .030. Another reason to spend more money on a higher end model or go with Miller.

There are many kinds of welding units. Gas, arc, MIG, TIG, etc. can't explain them all. One of each is a fantasy but just think MIG.

Then again, buy a MIG Welding Basics book first.
99.99% of your answers are explained way better than I can.
 
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THnaks that makes lots of sense NYB....but I'd rather not set foot in another classroom again. Maybe I can find same on youtube...but then I guess I would need the equipment in front of me. Oy Vey

These Community College industrial classes are more shop (hands on) orientated and not classroom academia. Definitely blue collar orientated type of training. People are there to learn a skill or new trade. No classroom environment at all. It will seem like going to your garage/shop. It'll get you on the fast track to understanding and performing welding fundamentals.
 
These Community College industrial classes are more shop (hands on) orientated and not classroom academia. Definitely blue collar orientated type of training. People are there to learn a skill or new trade. No classroom environment at all. It will seem like going to your garage/shop. It'll get you on the fast track to understanding and performing welding fundamentals.

The academic stuff turns me completely off now, I saw "classes" and lost interest real fast...but that description sounds much better. I will check it out then. There is a CC nearby about half hour, I bet they have courses there.
 
The academic stuff turns me completely off now, I saw "classes" and lost interest real fast...but that description sounds much better. I will check it out then. There is a CC nearby about half hour, I bet they have courses there.

If there's a current class going right now...........stop by and talk to the course instructor. He'll give you a quick tour and answer all the questions you have and I'm sure will bring you to a level that'll make you feel comfortable enough to sign up. Usually better to show up a little before the start time so he has a few minutes to talk.
 
If there's a current class going right now...........stop by and talk to the course instructor. He'll give you a quick tour and answer all the questions you have and I'm sure will bring you to a level that'll make you feel comfortable enough to sign up. Usually better to show up a little before the start time so he has a few minutes to talk.

I just checked with Gloucester County College....they have a "Fundamentals of Metal Fabrication and Welding" course available...I wonder If I can just audit the class....
 
Just as general advice, if you butt weld you should try to avoid to put the welds in the corners where bends are. Try to extend it up something like 1/2-3/4 of an inch into the bended area, gives higher stability to these patched areas.
You mentioned you use weld primer in overlapping areas already I think, which is a good idea; never had any rust issues again with such preparation.

Thanks for the advice, advice turns you from a novice to an expert (eventually LOL), I will use what you have told me when I do the next patch, another of the things this forum is great for.

And yes I have been using the Weld-thru (or so the can has it spelled) primer on all the overlaps and any area that is cover after the patch is welded in, I intend to protect my invest of time and labor.

It's fun. You use a lot of words you wouldn't use in mixed company.
I can vouch for that, I've had a few fly out when I caught my glove on fire that would bring a truck stop to a screeching hault, with one trucker looking at you and saying

"Watch your language, there's mechanics in here for christ sake"

On the subject of welders, and the easiest way to learn,

Buy a good quality welder (mine is a reboxed version of the Lincoln Electric Mig Pak 10, it's a 110 Volt, 100 AMP)

if your only doing a bit of welding the 110 Volt will do, especially if your welding off site, because not every place has 220 Volt.

Buy your bottle, like Stan mentioned, its easier,

On the subject of gas, you can buy Argon, but it's very expensive, and Mixed welding gas does very well, MAP does well but is also expensive.

Invest in a good Auto-darkening helmet, passive helmets are a ***** when your doing a lot of welding.

Nick
 
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