polara10x500
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Am I crazy or didn't a 64 Polara have those little chrome splash pieces at the lower back of the front wheel well as an option?
BRAKE CYLINDER INNER BORE SIZE
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Put Your Head On My Shoulder was written by Paul Anka. It's been covered by numerous artists over the years. It's the opening cut from Brenda's record - but there are lots of other great tunes to hear on it as well! Click on the link to hear the whole record - however, we must not hijack our Galwegian friend's thread!
polara10x500
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Yes yes sorry...totally uninitialed.
P O'LARA
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I don't have the 50th Ann. badge in the hub, would like to get one. The bumper guards were options, it had rear ones too but they were too far gone to restore. As to rarity, apparently they didn't keep good records of production numbers on the Canadian built cars. I won't be troubling Galen Govier on this issue.
I've seen them for sale in Australia, S. Africa and New Zealand, got mine in London where a few were embassy cars. Also rarity doesn't translate into monetary value (yet) in this case compared to muscle cars but of course that's not why I own it or had any expectation of.
The RHD is great on the small Irish roads, I live out in the country and spend a lot of time brushing the inside off the ditch while people in 4x4's with supposed off-road capability stay a foot out in the road freaking out at something that's no bigger than a courier's Fiat Iveco van.
Also I'd pay another 10% insurance premium on LHD.
P O'LARA
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They did and I had them but they got damaged, I forget how. However you still may be crazy.
P O'LARA
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Hijack be damned, I'm all ears open on music matters..
P O'LARA
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Ross, I am near speechless. That is seriously Lush, Lush Life personified. Immaculate production and arrangement, gorgeous voice. I can't think of anything else you could've done, sounds 100% perfect to me, aural equivalent of a concours Ghia Chrysler.
Is that album available ?
I play mostly 70's funk, uptempo blues and old rock n roll but am a big jazz fan (esp. Grant Green) big Diana Krall fan, saw her live in Monaco pre covid, the sound was so good you could hear her breathe
and even the drummer's brushes were audible.
Brenda has a rich quality to her voice which I love, your instrumentation suits it perfectly.
So I presume you wrote charts for all of that, I'm self-taught and don't read so the old joke applies here ;
How do you get a guitar player to turn down ?
Put some sheet music in front of him.
Now that the brake thing is thoroughly and willingly hijacked, would you have a look at the shots of my
slightly gouged handbrake release bar and tell me if you think it's still usable ?
Craig says it's likely ok but to check with you.
Thanks
You are very kind. Thank you.
The album is available here direct from the artist: https://brendabrownmusic.com/ Yes, she has a lovely rich "smokey" quality to her voice. We used a classic RCA ribbon mic - the big trapezoidal one you see Sinatra using.
Yes, I wrote all the charts, conducted the recording sessions, played piano in the rhythm section, and any sax/clarinet solos you hear. I used all local Toronto area musicians - there are no computer parts on this record. After the sessions were completed, I edited and rough mixed the music in my basement on my ProTools rig, then went back to the studio for the final mixes. The engineer I worked with is a Grammy winner - worked with Streisand, The Rolling Stones, and many others. The guitarist who solos (and co-composed) on the track Splintered Dreams played briefly with Diana Krall when her regular guy had to be away.
True Canadian talent on this record.
In response to your classic music joke - how do you get a tenor sax player to turn down? Take his chart away...
What is the difference between a jazz tenor sax and a machine gun? Two answers: 1) Lacquer 2) The machine gun repeats itself less often...
In regards to the brake arms - I'm definitely NOT an expert despite Craig @mobileparts confidence in me... If I was in your position, I would have the parts derusted (Evaporust solution and then wire brushed) to really inspect for hidden damage and to clearly see those gouges. If they're too far gone I expect that the gouges could be welded with new material to strengthen them, but the parts really have to be clean first to attempt that. Once the welds are laid down, grind them back to shape and you'd be good to go. However, that's just my theory, and the issue that might crop up is the weakening of the part's strength due to the heat of welding. I can't answer that. I'd be happy to show pictures of them to qualified mechanic people I know for their opinions, but as well, if you can furnish me with part numbers, I can still search for them NOS or good used on your behalf, as can Craig. Between the two of us, I bet you we can find them.
As well - does your car not have a front bonnet lip molding? I don't see it in the photos, but it looks like perhaps one is supposed to be there.
The album is available here direct from the artist: https://brendabrownmusic.com/ Yes, she has a lovely rich "smokey" quality to her voice. We used a classic RCA ribbon mic - the big trapezoidal one you see Sinatra using.
Yes, I wrote all the charts, conducted the recording sessions, played piano in the rhythm section, and any sax/clarinet solos you hear. I used all local Toronto area musicians - there are no computer parts on this record. After the sessions were completed, I edited and rough mixed the music in my basement on my ProTools rig, then went back to the studio for the final mixes. The engineer I worked with is a Grammy winner - worked with Streisand, The Rolling Stones, and many others. The guitarist who solos (and co-composed) on the track Splintered Dreams played briefly with Diana Krall when her regular guy had to be away.
True Canadian talent on this record.
In response to your classic music joke - how do you get a tenor sax player to turn down? Take his chart away...
What is the difference between a jazz tenor sax and a machine gun? Two answers: 1) Lacquer 2) The machine gun repeats itself less often...
In regards to the brake arms - I'm definitely NOT an expert despite Craig @mobileparts confidence in me... If I was in your position, I would have the parts derusted (Evaporust solution and then wire brushed) to really inspect for hidden damage and to clearly see those gouges. If they're too far gone I expect that the gouges could be welded with new material to strengthen them, but the parts really have to be clean first to attempt that. Once the welds are laid down, grind them back to shape and you'd be good to go. However, that's just my theory, and the issue that might crop up is the weakening of the part's strength due to the heat of welding. I can't answer that. I'd be happy to show pictures of them to qualified mechanic people I know for their opinions, but as well, if you can furnish me with part numbers, I can still search for them NOS or good used on your behalf, as can Craig. Between the two of us, I bet you we can find them.
As well - does your car not have a front bonnet lip molding? I don't see it in the photos, but it looks like perhaps one is supposed to be there.
Not to worry - it's been hijacked already! ;)
P O'LARA
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Hey Ross, love the jokes, I'd like to know the engineer's name as my son Leroy's partner Linda is a sound engineer herself.You are very kind. Thank you.
The album is available here direct from the artist: https://brendabrownmusic.com/ Yes, she has a lovely rich "smokey" quality to her voice. We used a classic RCA ribbon mic - the big trapezoidal one you see Sinatra using.
Yes, I wrote all the charts, conducted the recording sessions, played piano in the rhythm section, and any sax/clarinet solos you hear. I used all local Toronto area musicians - there are no computer parts on this record. After the sessions were completed, I edited and rough mixed the music in my basement on my ProTools rig, then went back to the studio for the final mixes. The engineer I worked with is a Grammy winner - worked with Streisand, The Rolling Stones, and many others. The guitarist who solos (and co-composed) on the track Splintered Dreams played briefly with Diana Krall when her regular guy had to be away.
True Canadian talent on this record.
In response to your classic music joke - how do you get a tenor sax player to turn down? Take his chart away...
What is the difference between a jazz tenor sax and a machine gun? Two answers: 1) Lacquer 2) The machine gun repeats itself less often...
In regards to the brake arms - I'm definitely NOT an expert despite Craig @mobileparts confidence in me... If I was in your position, I would have the parts derusted (Evaporust solution and then wire brushed) to really inspect for hidden damage and to clearly see those gouges. If they're too far gone I expect that the gouges could be welded with new material to strengthen them, but the parts really have to be clean first to attempt that. Once the welds are laid down, grind them back to shape and you'd be good to go. However, that's just my theory, and the issue that might crop up is the weakening of the part's strength due to the heat of welding. I can't answer that. I'd be happy to show pictures of them to qualified mechanic people I know for their opinions, but as well, if you can furnish me with part numbers, I can still search for them NOS or good used on your behalf, as can Craig. Between the two of us, I bet you we can find them.
As well - does your car not have a front bonnet lip molding? I don't see it in the photos, but it looks like perhaps one is supposed to be there.
I didn't actually realise you're Canadian. I was born in England but was brought to Toronto at 6 months in '53, spent 8 years there, then 4 in Ashcroft B.C. before returning to England, moved to Ireland aged 20. I have an uncle and cousins in Waterloo, have been over twice visiting, even made the big Mopar show one year, got my carb rebuilt in Toronto and came home with a suitcase full from Moparts. So I have a great affinity for Canada and all things Canadian, really appreciate the all Canadian aspect of the album.
Funny you should say about Sinatra's mic, I wouldn't be his biggest fan but listening to Brenda put me in mind of seeing him when I was a kid, probably on Ed Sullivan, introducing a song he'd always say " with a marvellous arrangement by....' usually Nelson Riddle I think. Of course I'd be only waiting for the Beatles or Stones and annoyed that he was the music that week and thinking "what the hell is an arrangement anyways "
I will clean my struts up and use them for now to get back on the road but if you could have a lookout for some fresh ones that'd be great, thanks for the advice.
Yes it should have a moulding on the hood but it was too dented and crinkled to put back on.
Interesting to hear about your history there!
The engineer is Jeremy Darby at Canterbury Music Company in Toronto.
I'll cast about and see what I can find for your hood molding and your struts.
Of course, 64 is the one year I don't have a parts catalogue for... figures. If you can provide part numbers, that would help my search.
Also, there is a person here in Ontario that restores and polishes moldings and has quite a good reputation - if you send me a picture I can ask them if yours is fixable.
The engineer is Jeremy Darby at Canterbury Music Company in Toronto.
I'll cast about and see what I can find for your hood molding and your struts.
Of course, 64 is the one year I don't have a parts catalogue for... figures. If you can provide part numbers, that would help my search.
Also, there is a person here in Ontario that restores and polishes moldings and has quite a good reputation - if you send me a picture I can ask them if yours is fixable.
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D Cluley
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Ross, Just so you know, MyMopar.com has the '64 parts book available as a PDF download if you want to add to your library.
Thanks - it wasn't there when I downloaded the others I have, so it must have been added to their library more recently. It's been a few years.
I now have it!
I now have it!
P O'LARA
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Hey Ross, Seeing as how you like my car, here's one you missed on Kijiji in 2019 which caused me weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth at my inability to purchase it. Original owner 50,000 miler in mint condition, looking for $9,000, down to 8 2 days later, gone on the 3rd. I was searching for shots of an Aussie Polara on USB sticks which I couldn't find but this beaut came up.
I found the Brenda album on Spotify, it's excellent throughout which isn't being kind, it's what my ears told me to say. I couldn't help but wonder if you'd have close to a pretty average figure for a Resto into that project which would be along the lines of 3,000 hours between charts, studio playing time, home and studio mixing plus time spent organising/sourcing musicians, would that be a fair guess ?
Also I'd love to see some shots and info on your TC Wagon if possible.
I found the Brenda album on Spotify, it's excellent throughout which isn't being kind, it's what my ears told me to say. I couldn't help but wonder if you'd have close to a pretty average figure for a Resto into that project which would be along the lines of 3,000 hours between charts, studio playing time, home and studio mixing plus time spent organising/sourcing musicians, would that be a fair guess ?
Also I'd love to see some shots and info on your TC Wagon if possible.
A beauty! I like your car better though, being a factory RHD. I got ahold of the parts manual, so I'm going to look up part numbers for the brake struts and the hood trim and see what I can beat out of the bushes for you.
Brenda's album cost the better part of $100k from first pen to paper all the way to mastering, manufacturing, distribution and promotions - so in the order of a full resto-shop restoration.
Sadly, people like me don't see but a small percentage of that total - a lot goes out to all of the other jobs I was in charge of contracting to other providers. It's a community, and there are many specialists who are worth every penny of what they charge for services they do that no one else can do.
I have not really figured out how many hours went into it, but I would guess that it's in the order of 2,000 - 4,000 hours.
Brenda's album cost the better part of $100k from first pen to paper all the way to mastering, manufacturing, distribution and promotions - so in the order of a full resto-shop restoration.
Sadly, people like me don't see but a small percentage of that total - a lot goes out to all of the other jobs I was in charge of contracting to other providers. It's a community, and there are many specialists who are worth every penny of what they charge for services they do that no one else can do.
I have not really figured out how many hours went into it, but I would guess that it's in the order of 2,000 - 4,000 hours.
P O'LARA
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Thanks for taking the time with the parts numbers Ross, you probably read what Craig said about his only source for the brake struts going under, the trim I'd imagine would be a lucky find on a stall at a Mopar show, I remember seeing a perfect grille at the Canadian one, I'll dig mine out of the garage attic this w/end.
Pics will help!
We'll see what I can come up with. ;)
We'll see what I can come up with. ;)
P O'LARA
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Here's a book I'd strongly recommend, a very candid account from a man who wanted to play be-bop and Basie but played mostly funk. A major producer/arranger. Very funny on his time with
James Brown.
James Brown.
Cool - I'll check it out!
P O'LARA
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Here's another right-hooker currently for sale in Classic American, an English mag that was the main source of 'our' cars before the internet took over and where I found mine in 2001.
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