Having a brain fart.....

[MrMoparCHP]

Keep up the attitude and everybody will forget you exist. We have all given you valid help with the information given. There are only 2 things that can cause your problem as described.

1. A slipped ring on the balancer, this can happen even if you cannot move by hand.
2. You have the wrong balancer. The crank is keyed an balances can only go on one way.

so if you want help drop the attitude.

I'm done here


Alan

 

[LocuMob]

I turn my own wrenches. The answer is within these 3 pages, you just chose not to listen.

 

[1970cat]

i gave another thought on your other thread.

 

[Ripinator]

So......basically, not one single person on here can troubleshoot a basic timing problem? That's really sad. It's like Mopar facebook around here for god's sake

Here is an idea. . . Why don't you shove that balancer up yer arse ?!?

 

[Knebel]

You seem to be missing the point, the balancer does not slip all the time, it has slipped in the past and now the mark is off. Set no1 piston to tdc and make a mark on the balancer at 0° or tdc. Or just verify that the mark is still aligned with tdc on the engine. Takes 5minutes to check and then you know whats going on with the timing.

Otherwise, just connect the timinglight to no1 and turn the distributor, but that might **** up the motor.

 

[commando1]

 

[rkrochen]

So......basically, not one single person on here can troubleshoot a basic timing problem? That's really sad. It's like Mopar facebook around here for god's sake

You said it correct in your opening question "Brain Fart" it seems to be a big one. If you would listen to the advise from everyone and do what is supposed to be done you would have solved this issue by now. If you aren't capable of doing basic troubleshooting such as this you should not be attempting it. FYI I am a licensed mechanic have been for 35plus years.

 

[butchr66]

Ok you crabby bastards, just got here and a quick check over.....starts right up and runs without a miss, groove on the balancer is about 180° southeast from where it should be. Wanna place bets? I'm thinking they set the timing chain with number 1 at the top of the intake stroke or hopefully the keyway on the balancer is 90° from the timing groove. I'm totally not in the mood to find exact TDC and remarking tonight. Certainly not feeling like playing the timing chain game ugh

 

[rkrochen]

Ok you crabby bastards, just got here and a quick check over.....starts right up and runs without a miss, groove on the balancer is about 180° southeast from where it should be. Wanna place bets? I'm thinking they set the timing chain with number 1 at the top of the intake stroke or hopefully the keyway on the balancer is 90° from the timing groove. I'm totally not in the mood to find exact TDC and remarking tonight. Certainly not feeling like playing the timing chain game ugh

Okay this is the last time I will respond.What I see right now is a bunch of guess work. To perform proper diagnostics you need to do a systematic check of things (this is why they created flow charts for some people). There are several of us who have told you what to do and it needs to be done. If you ask for help don't alienate the ones helping.
Getting back to your remarks if the timing chain was not set correctly the engine would not run PERIOD. So here are my suggestions. Tomorrow morning wake up and follow these steps;
1. Wake up go to the mirror and slap yourself until you are fully awake.
2. Have several cups of coffee or latte or whatever you drink to insure you are awake.
3. Go to the car and do the checks we recommended as follows;
- Make sure you actually are putting the timing lite on number one cylinder. If you are certain then go to step two ( for shits and giggles which one do you think is #1).
- Set number one to TDC as we told you. When performing this make sure you disable the coil so the car does not start accidentally (this is the case if you have someone crank with the key or you left the key on for some unknown reason).
- You can verify you are at TDC by removing the distributor cap and checking to insure the rotor is indeed pointed at #1.
- If at this time the marks don't line up there are two possible reasons. 1. the balancer spun and 2 it is the wrong one.
- If you want you can scribe a new line at TDC (I usually use a white paint marker) then start the car and recheck the timing.

- Lastly and most important of all you can APOLOGIZE for being an idiot.

 

[twostick]

Don't hthedrama::thatswck: feed :yes_no::sign12: the :brainfart: troll. :knob::stfu:

Kevin

 

[MrMoparCHP]

This is a balancer to a 67 273, a 65 318 should be the same.

As you can see the timing mark (bottom left) is 90º from the key way.

Aside from the broken bolt there is nothing wrong with this piece.

This is for a small block with the timing mark on the passenger side.

It might be worth the effort to pull the timing cover and verify the chain is installed correctly, I would.



Alan

 

[butchr66]

Balancer is ok. And hey sorry for coming off as a prick. Anyway, No. one piston up top, rotor pointing at no. one in the distributor and homonic mark pointing to no. one oil pan bolt. Please tell me your balancer is keyed 90° from the timing groove??????

 

[butchr66]

Omg it totally is!!!! Just looking close at your picture!!!! Yay!!!!! Easy fix!!!!! Dummies turned the balancer around!!!! Hahahahaha

 

[butchr66]

Next question.....is that crank bolt 1 and 3/8"? He'll if I can remember and left my big sockets home ugh

 

[MrMoparCHP]

The balancer is not something you can put on backwards, this is the backside...

Alan

 

[butchr66]

Okay this is the last time I will respond.What I see right now is a bunch of guess work. To perform proper diagnostics you need to do a systematic check of things (this is why they created flow charts for some people). There are several of us who have told you what to do and it needs to be done. If you ask for help don't alienate the ones helping.
Getting back to your remarks if the timing chain was not set correctly the engine would not run PERIOD. So here are my suggestions. Tomorrow morning wake up and follow these steps;
1. Wake up go to the mirror and slap yourself until you are fully awake.
2. Have several cups of coffee or latte or whatever you drink to insure you are awake.
3. Go to the car and do the checks we recommended as follows;
- Make sure you actually are putting the timing lite on number one cylinder. If you are certain then go to step two ( for shits and giggles which one do you think is #1).
- Set number one to TDC as we told you. When performing this make sure you disable the coil so the car does not start accidentally (this is the case if you have someone crank with the key or you left the key on for some unknown reason).
- You can verify you are at TDC by removing the distributor cap and checking to insure the rotor is indeed pointed at #1.
- If at this time the marks don't line up there are two possible reasons. 1. the balancer spun and 2 it is the wrong one.
- If you want you can scribe a new line at TDC (I usually use a white paint marker) then start the car and recheck the timing.

- Lastly and most important of all you can APOLOGIZE for being an idiot.

Or 3....the person that worked on it was a dork and put the balancer on backwards. Don't be cocky, ok? Lol

 

[butchr66]

The balancer is not something you can put on backwards, this is the backside...

Alan

Dunno what all that is but I got it. Big adjustable and turned the balancer around and we're good. Timing up now. Thanks dude and sorry again for seeming a prick

 

[Yatzee]

You're not a prick, your an ***! When did you discover the big pile of oil on the floor from the reversed balancer? Obviously there was no seal keeping the oil in.

 

[butchr66]

No oil on the floor and balancer was flat.....next dumb question?

 

[butchr66]

Here is an idea. . . Why don't you shove that balancer up yer arse ?!?

Nah.....I'm the sort to fix things but thanks for no actual input lol