I HAD to post this one

[bluefury361]

In a nutshell, good ol' Uncle Sam mandated automakers to put 5 mph impact resistant bumpers on cars after they had already been designed...

DUH......?

Aerodynamics has little to do with "style".
OHhhh yes it does..... Aerodynamics turned styling over to the engineers and effectively ended the era of the aesthetic designed automobile.

Aerodynamics is about efficiency, because as you all well know, cheap gasoline is gone........forever, raw materials continuously become more and more costly, and people are more enlightened these days.
DUH..again.....

The number one reason a person buys a brand new Dodge Dart is not because of its "style".
It's just sad that the "passion" for aesthetic design has been replaced by "efficiency" in the mind of the current public.... Great marketing.

"Style" was a product of the 50's and 60's era, things were different.
Yes.... so true.... And the reason we all come here and share the lost passions for our beautifully designed old cars....

It's hard to imagine the "taller then wide" set getting together in the future and compairing drag co-efficency numbers. but it could happen..... I won't be there.

 

[1978 NYB]

Eloquently spoken Will.

 

[1966newport]

over priced at 5500 and reserve not met.

 

[tallhair]

In a nutshell, good ol' Uncle Sam mandated automakers to put 5 mph impact resistant bumpers on cars after they had already been designed...

"Style" was a product of the 50's and 60's era, things were different.
Yes.... so true.... And the reason we all come here and share the lost passions for our beautifully designed old cars....

It's hard to imagine the "taller then wide" set getting together in the future and compairing drag co-efficency numbers. but it could happen..... I won't be there.

It might go something like this

"I had this mitsu X3000 one time when I was in high school and man that thing cut through air with 'X to the x power coefficient man'

Other guy

"oh yeah, well my cousins friends brother knew this guy one time that was able to cut that glide down to 'Z to the z power' just by just scalloping off the factory OnStar fin and replacing it with a smaller profile wing modeled on a manta ray by using CAD software .. blah blah blah'

Actually this conversation is probably happening somewhere right now between talking about installing bass, Navstar, etc systems and comparing wheels sizes

 

[70NPORT]

In a nutshell, good ol' Uncle Sam mandated automakers to put 5 mph impact resistant bumpers on cars after they had already been designed...

DUH......?

Aerodynamics has little to do with "style".
OHhhh yes it does..... Aerodynamics turned styling over to the engineers and effectively ended the era of the aesthetic designed automobile.

Aerodynamics is about efficiency, because as you all well know, cheap gasoline is gone........forever, raw materials continuously become more and more costly, and people are more enlightened these days.
DUH..again.....

The number one reason a person buys a brand new Dodge Dart is not because of its "style".
It's just sad that the "passion" for aesthetic design has been replaced by "efficiency" in the mind of the current public.... Great marketing.

"Style" was a product of the 50's and 60's era, things were different.
Yes.... so true.... And the reason we all come here and share the lost passions for our beautifully designed old cars....

It's hard to imagine the "taller then wide" set getting together in the future and compairing drag co-efficency numbers. but it could happen..... I won't be there.

I'm not going to try to untangle all that subjective ranting.....but I can tell you that engineers don't design cars. They never have. Therefore "aerodynamics turned styling over to the engineers and effectively ended the era of the aesthetic designed automobile" is about as true as there being cheese on the moon.

 

[bluefury361]

about as true as there being cheese on the moon.[/QUOTE]

It's true...... I've been there. I have a background in advance product development at FoMoCo. Hated seeing the transition.

 

[70NPORT]

about as true as there being cheese on the moon.

It's true...... I've been there. I have a background in advance product development at FoMoCo. Hated seeing the transition.

[/QUOTE]Yeah, and I invented the hydrogen bomb.

 

[1966newport]

more endless rambling about nothing

 

[70NPORT]

Yeah, tell me about. When your cup is full......

 

[1978 NYB]

It's true...... I've been there. I have a background in advance product development at FoMoCo. Hated seeing the transition.

Yeah, and I invented the hydrogen bomb.[/QUOTE]

I haven't shot one of those............. yet!

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

I didn't like the 61 Dodge&Plymouth when I was young but they have grown on me a lot. But only with the 2dr HT roof.
Great pieces of design.

Even though I can not say "really nice" like on a 69-71 Fusey 2dr HT

 

[commando1]

There isn't a RWD/full sized Mopar in nice condition that I would kick out of my garage.

 

[has2bmopar]

'61 D-500 Pheonix

 

[polara71]

Has2be.... That Dodge is incredible

 

[tallhair]

Thanks very nice

 

[commando1]

Wait a minute.
Will somebody explain to me what the hell is going on here???
All three are '61 Dodges.

 

[bluefury361]

The first one is a Polara.
The others are Darts of which there were different trim levels, Phoenix, Senica, Dart.

It was an era when Chrysler was all about excess.

 

[commando1]

Really.......
I learned something new today.
Three models, three *** treatments.
That would be three different rear 3/4 stampings!

 

[cm23uoc]

But I also remember reading the early production Darts had these lower taillights only and had to be replaced by these upper ones as they didn't meet the standards for minimum height of the taillights. The pictured ones all seem to be Dart Phoenix models.

 

[bluefury361]

But I also remember reading the early production Darts had these lower taillights only and had to be replaced by these upper ones as they didn't meet the standards for minimum height of the taillights. The pictured ones all seem to be Dart Phoenix models.

That could be true, I heard that also but never saw any verification. Those lights mounted just above the bumper were probably easily taken out by anything bumping into the rear of the car too.
mid Production changes were common then also. Early cars would use up pre production model parts..... late production changes and parts shortages were not uncommon either.
The 62 Plymouth Fury went through three distinct trim level changes during it's production run.