Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
I'll go give that a try right now. The whole point of getting it was to drive it around. I can do the motor when there is 3' of snow outside.
That's the spirit! lol
I'll go give that a try right now. The whole point of getting it was to drive it around. I can do the motor when there is 3' of snow outside.
The whole point of getting it was to drive it around. I can do the motor when there is 3' of snow outside.
Glad you have her working again, and seems you had fun in the process (thanks for sharing). Now enjoy her a while, then you can decide if/how your going to rebuild her. As I said earlier, she might clean herself up nicely with some miles and make you decide not to ever open her up. As to the sludgy look of her insides, just carry a few quarts of oil and a filter in the trunk... if the pressure ever falls off swap filters immediately. If newer oil breaks down enough sludge, the filter may clog and the bypass kills pressure.Took me till 9:30, but the car is back together, fixed, road tested and I even got pulled over by the local constabulary for a burned out tail lamp.
I went and looked at it again based on what carmine said and found the rocker arm slid out of the way on the shaft. Pretty simple. Got it apart then the trouble began.
Stuffed 10' of polypropylene 1/4 twist in there, brought it up to TDC. valve was sitting pretty. Got the keepers off no problem.
Compressed my new spring. Set it over the valve. Couldn't get the keepers in. Prolly fought with it for 30 minutes. Couldn't get them in. Wrestled with the spring tensioner. Kept dropping keepers under the car. Tight spot. Fat spring tensioner. Fat fingers. Over tensioned the spring once and it shot across the shop.
Then I got the idea that maybe the valve wasn't seated all the way. Measured it against the other valves. Yep. Off by a 1/4 inch. Hmm...what did I read 'don't get the rope caught under the valve.'? Yep. Rope was in there. Pulled out 5' of rope and suddenly the valve seated metal on metal and I had another 1/4". Stuffed 3' back in and thought I would be ok.
Another half hour later trying to keep an 1/8" of play out of the valve so I could fumble with dropping keepers under the car again, I finally succumbed to backing the piston back down stuffing the rest of the rope in, bringing the piston back up. 5 min later, reassembled.
5 more minutes - valve cover and plug reinstalled. Fired it up. Ran like nothing ever happened.
Took it around the block, got pulled over, came home, put it in the shop, smoked the place out with the oil burning off the exhaust manifold.
Done.
Now I find out why the bulb is burned out.... seized screw. Got the entire assembly out. Soaking in pb blaster. We'll finish that project tomorrow.
Thanks for all the help folks.
I went and looked at it again based on what carmine said and found the rocker arm slid out of the way on the shaft. Pretty simple. Got it apart then the trouble began.
Stuffed 10' of polypropylene 1/4 twist in there, brought it up to TDC. valve was sitting pretty. Got the keepers off no problem.
Compressed my new spring. Set it over the valve. Couldn't get the keepers in. Prolly fought with it for 30 minutes. Couldn't get them in. Wrestled with the spring tensioner. Kept dropping keepers under the car. Tight spot. Fat spring tensioner. Fat fingers. Over tensioned the spring once and it shot across the shop.
Then I got the idea that maybe the valve wasn't seated all the way. Measured it against the other valves. Yep. Off by a 1/4 inch. Hmm...what did I read 'don't get the rope caught under the valve.'? Yep. Rope was in there. Pulled out 5' of rope and suddenly the valve seated metal on metal and I had another 1/4". Stuffed 3' back in and thought I would be ok.
Another half hour later trying to keep an 1/8" of play out of the valve so I could fumble with dropping keepers under the car again, I finally succumbed to backing the piston back down stuffing the rest of the rope in, bringing the piston back up. 5 min later, reassembled.
5 more minutes - valve cover and plug reinstalled. Fired it up. Ran like nothing ever happened.
Took it around the block, got pulled over, came home, put it in the shop, smoked the place out with the oil burning off the exhaust manifold.
Done.
Now I find out why the bulb is burned out.... seized screw. Got the entire assembly out. Soaking in pb blaster. We'll finish that project tomorrow.
Thanks for all the help folks.
The last time i did one of these valves (Caddy 503 block) i followed up with one of those engine desludge additives. It was an extra oil change but it significantly changed the engine running. It was almost hard to believe Sounded better. Ran smoother. I will be doing that today with the Fury. It is out getting a state inspection right now.Glad you have her working again, and seems you had fun in the process (thanks for sharing). Now enjoy her a while, then you can decide if/how your going to rebuild her. As I said earlier, she might clean herself up nicely with some miles and make you decide not to ever open her up. As to the sludgy look of her insides, just carry a few quarts of oil and a filter in the trunk... if the pressure ever falls off swap filters immediately. If newer oil breaks down enough sludge, the filter may clog and the bypass kills pressure.
That can be slightly risky on an old one like yours with such heavy deposits. There have been cases where a big chunk broke free and blocked a passage somewhere.The last time i did one of these valves (Caddy 503 block) i followed up with one of those engine desludge additives. It was an extra oil change but it significantly changed the engine running. It was almost hard to believe Sounded better. Ran smoother. I will be doing that today with the Fury. It is out getting a state inspection right now.
Change it... cheap oil, good filter... plan to change it again after a small amount of use, decide at that change if your ready to try something.I just don't want to keep putting that oil through it. It is old.
You'll never guess what happened on the way home from it's first car show....