My City Was Gone

[odcics2]

Uh. . . As in most of these mass shootings, the WalMart where this shooting occurred is a "gun free zone." I wonder if WalMart is now checking into why the gunman didn't obey their rule. . . Didn't he see the sign?

Some folks interviewed said they weren't carrying, but normally do at Walmart.
Walmart is the largest retailer of guns in the US. I didn't know that...

 

[sixpkrt]

@commando1 I don't blame you for wanting to ignore this thread, but FWIW, I'd be interested in what you have to say.
For me, last weekend what began as an overdue visit with my dad, and to spend time with him, is all I wanted to do. But when I woke up Sunday morning and saw what was happening in Dayton really made me stop and think, (philosophically) WTF is happening today that has made society so hateful, and why are these occurrence's happening all the time.

The media sensationalizes this crap so much, they're probably salivating for the next mass shooting, where ever it happens.
Young people today (not all) have too many distractions that keep them engrossed on their cell phones for the latest news, or whatever, and not enough time thinking for themselves.
The jobs young adults find today, typically do not last more than 5 years. That would drive me crazy, but it's what the technology jobs have to offer. Any person in their 50's today will have some recollection of the plentiful, well paying jobs that were in every decent size city throughout America, and as others here have mentioned, held a good paying manufacturing job during that time. If lucky, you kept that job until you retired with a nice retirement package or pension. Not so much today, as many large employers don't do a whole hell of a lot for their employees.
In Dayton, the guys that were hit the hardest when the Big 3 in Detroit decided to either scale down production or move operations to another country, were the working class families. I had friends who's parents were laid off back then, and to this day, some have never recovered.
I think it's a joke when politian's go into a community, standing on their stump to tell the audience the future for good paying jobs will be "Green Jobs". To that, I ask what future? Robots that have already replaced the human in many different sectors in manufacturing. Pretty much closes that field out. Autonomous trucking is being developed, and will someday kill a whole new industry of good paying jobs. More and more unskilled jobs, like those of sort that we see people demanding $15/hr for counter help/cashiers or even flipping a burger, will soon be gone too. Kiosks are in more & more fast food restaurants now than ever before.
The green jobs will require very few people, highly skilled & highly educated people, most will probably require an engineering degree, or other highly skilled training.
Even now some of these big companies are closing their doors because of advancements in technology, eliminating thousand of jobs. We can than tech giants like Amazon, Facebook and Google for that.
Back in the late 70's/early 80's when those manufacturing jobs were disappearing, it snowballed to an "ideal" way for big business to move off shore or over the border, to pay a significantly lower wage for their products.
We as a country should have passed laws back then, to not make it so advantageous for these corporations to leave.
When the 1990's came, and NAFTA was signed, it was the death nail in the coffin for any hope of revitalizing manufacturing in the states.
The younger generation will have it harder than we have in our lives. But as a 50 something, white male, I hope to make it to the finish line working in my field until the day I choose to retire, before my it is gone too.

 

[Fratzog]

The dual income society changed most of that.

Bingo. Most kids' upbringing gets contracted out right after maternity leave ends. In a lucky minority of cases there is home school and/or the grandparents are involved in day care but once they get into the education system it is a leftist ideological cesspool. Most teachers who graduate from Humanities or Social Science programs are brainwashed and have adopted neo-marxist/postmodernist dogma. The result in the classroom is that the foundation of western Renaissance culture based on sovereignty of the individual is denigrated in favour of collective ideals. This same ideological bias extends also into the deep state. The path we are on is disastrous as evidenced by not a single example of a successful socialist system ever anywhere. Get involved before it is too late.
How Parents Can End Socialism in America’s Schools: School Choice

 

[Rapidtrans777]

Uh. . . As in most of these mass shootings, the WalMart where this shooting occurred is a "gun free zone." I wonder if WalMart is now checking into why the gunman didn't obey their rule. . . Didn't he see the sign?

Isn't the entire state of Maryland a gun free zone?. Just kidding, although Maryland doesn't recognize CCW permits from other states. We are fortunate down here. Gun free zones are limited to Government buildings and schools.

 

[Ripinator]

Isn't the entire state of Maryland a gun free zone?. Just kidding, although Maryland doesn't recognize CCW permits from other states. We are fortunate down here. Gun free zones are limited to Government buildings and schools.

No. Maryland is a "Common Sense-free" zone.

 

[MoPar Maniac]

One question nobody is asking....
Why did the guy drive from DFW all the way to El Paso to do this?

 

[Ripinator]

3Cs & aD sez: Due to it's larger percentage of Mexicans. He was targeting them, even went into the store plain clothes just before he came back armed, satisfied that there were plenty of Mexicans. A better question to me is, why did they take him alive?

They caught the guy in his car just outside the parking lot, and he was out of ammo.

 

[3C's & a D?]

One question nobody is asking....
Why did the guy drive from DFW all the way to El Paso to do this?

Due to it's higher percentage of Mexicans. He even went into the store plain clothes before he returned armed, satisfied that there were plenty of Mexicans. My question is, why did they take him alive? Though I suppose that is rather cold.

 

[3C's & a D?]

3Cs & aD sez: Due to it's larger percentage of Mexicans. He was targeting them, even went into the store plain clothes just before he came back armed, satisfied that there were plenty of Mexicans. A better question to me is, why did they take him alive?

They caught the guy in his car just outside the parking lot, and he was out of ammo.

Yeah, I know. However, we didn't need to know that. He could've "pointed a weapon at the police", and that would be it. And I understand that's not how things should be done and two wrongs don't make a right, however, in instances like this, I believe you should reap what you sow. This piece of crap now gets a fair trial for something He's obviously guilty of? And for those wondering about the posting sequence discrepancy, my initial post had my reply in the same box as the quote. I can't stand when that happens, couldn't edit, had to delete and re-post.

 

[Ripinator]

Yeah, I know. However, we didn't need to know that. He could've "pointed a weapon at the police", and that would be it. And I understand that's not how things should be done and two wrongs don't make a right, however, in instances like this, I believe you should reap what you sow. This piece of crap now gets a fair trial for something He's obviously guilty of? And for those wondering about the posting sequence discrepancy, my initial post had my reply in the same box as the quote. I can't stand when that happens, couldn't edit, had to delete and re-post.

No problem. . . I feel pretty much the same way as you. . .

 

[70bigblockdodge]

My question is, why did they take him alive? Though I suppose that is rather cold

Like the pansey *** in Pittsburgh he started surrendering at the first wound, or just a pussy.

 

[Ripinator]

Like the pansey *** in Pittsburgh he started surrendering at the first wound, or just a pussy.

It's probably a good thing he was taken alive. At least now we have some chance of discovering how this maggot's brain works. . . And that may help us identify some of the future mass murderer whack-jobs.

 

[Fratzog]

I believe you should reap what you sow.

Unfortunately now it will be a long expensive process with snowflakes protesting against the 2nd Amendment and the death penalty in the same breath.
State Officials Will Pursue Death Penalty Against Suspected El Paso Gunman

 

[sixpkrt]

The shooter in Texas should have been gunned down by law enforcement, the same way the Ohio shooter was neutralized.
I've noticed what has been on the news and most reporting is focusing a lot of the attention on the Texas shooter, and not so much as the one in Ohio.
The narrative by the MSM is to keep the focus of the public on their Trump hating rhetoric, going as far as blaming POTUS for these two depraved jerks and associating it all with white supremacy/white nationalism.
But what is not being told to the public is that the Ohio shooter leaned far left when it came to politics, and was an avid Elizabeth Warren supporter, a Satan worshiper with a history of instability who had so much hate in his head, he had drafted a list of people he wanted to kill, and women he wanted to rape. Definitely one sick F_ _ _.
Not saying the MSM is giving him a total pass, but to the MSM, the Texas shooter fits their story better, as to why this is happening.
Even the new Gov here in Illinois came out yesterday without checking any of the facts, and announced the mass shooting were because of white nationalism. Never a word though from these big blue city politian's about the killings that are happening in their states or in major cities, even when cities like Chicago has already had 8 murders and 56 shootings, just since August 1st.

Chicago Crime 2019 | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

 

[MarPar]

The shooter in Texas should have been gunned down by law enforcement, the same way the Ohio shooter was neutralized.
I've noticed what has been on the news and most reporting is focusing a lot of the attention on the Texas shooter, and not so much as the one in Ohio.
The narrative by the MSM is to keep the focus of the public on their Trump hating rhetoric, going as far as blaming POTUS for these two depraved jerks and associating it all with white supremacy/white nationalism.
But what is not being told to the public is that the Ohio shooter leaned far left when it came to politics, and was an avid Elizabeth Warren supporter, a Satan worshiper with a history of instability who had so much hate in his head, he had drafted a list of people he wanted to kill, and women he wanted to rape. Definitely one sick F_ _ _.
Not saying the MSM is giving him a total pass, but to the MSM, the Texas shooter fits their story better, as to why this is happening.
Even the new Gov here in Illinois came out yesterday without checking any of the facts, and announced the mass shooting were because of white nationalism. Never a word though from these big blue city politian's about the killings that are happening in their states or in major cities, even when cities like Chicago has already had 8 murders and 56 shootings, just since August 1st.

Chicago Crime 2019 | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

This weekend was Chicago's worst weekend all year. 46 shot, 7 dead.

7 Killed, 46 Wounded In Weekend Shootings; 'It's Destroying The Fiber Of Our Communities'

And this happens every damn weekend. F'in sad. Ya, Tim, speakin of my city being gone.

 

[MarPar]

 

[Fratzog]

This weekend was Chicago's worst weekend all year. 46 shot, 7 dead.

What jumped out at me was the clearance rate of under 10%. That's pathetic.

 

[sixpkrt]

Mar, it doesn't surprise me at all that most of the murders in Chicago go unsolved. The residents in some neighborhoods can't go outside after dark. They are terrified their kid will be shot dead walking home from school, or worse yet...for not joining a gang. I've got customers in the west and south side of the city, who have turned their buildings into bunkers, with barbed wire, steel screens on all the windows/doors and surveillance camera's everywhere. I need to call them before I arrive at their place of business, so they're ready to "buzz me in" through their steel door. It's really getting bad in Chi-town.
Regularly on the nightly new I see those groups people with parents of a fallen child, hoping to make a difference by walking in the streets in large crowds, with the banners stating "Stop the Killings". But they do this so often anymore, nobody notices or seems to care.
The Chicago cops are between a rock and a hard place. They make an arrest of one of these punks, or a shooting occurs between the perp and the police, COPA Civilian Office of Police Accountability will be breathing down their neck, looking for an excuse to make an example of a police officer doing their job.
The new mayor made a career of going after the police as an attorney before getting elected. She has no respect for the police either. As you probably saw when her comments were picked up on a hot mic at a city council meeting, referring to a union official for the police as "this FOP Clown".
I'm not surprised so many crimes go unsolved, as the police are brow beaten by the politicians every day. Rather then fighting crime, they're fighting city hall, and all as the criminals run the streets, unchecked by a broken system.
Chicago politics have created most of their own problems, when former Mayor Richy M Daley decided to tear down all the housing projects, and created the scattered site housing program, every neighborhood in Chicago had the gangbangers moving into their somewhat peaceful communities. At least before the projects were torn down, the cops knew where the criminals were. Since then, all hell has broken loose, mostly due to drugs and turf wars all over the city.
For someone who did not grow up in Chicago, it's pretty clear to me why this criminal behavior is happening.

 

[mdh157]

I think the shootings are going to continue......too many variables in favor of it. Unfortunately our many issues are never addressed because it does not suit the politicians priorities. Anyone remember the conversation between McQueen and Vaughn as the jet rolled back to the terminal in BULLITT?

 

[Newport 66]

Mar, it doesn't surprise me at all that most of the murders in Chicago go unsolved. The residents in some neighborhoods can't go outside after dark. They are terrified their kid will be shot dead walking home from school, or worse yet...for not joining a gang. I've got customers in the west and south side of the city, who have turned their buildings into bunkers, with barbed wire, steel screens on all the windows/doors and surveillance camera's everywhere. I need to call them before I arrive at their place of business, so they're ready to "buzz me in" through their steel door. It's really getting bad in Chi-town.
Regularly on the nightly new I see those groups people with parents of a fallen child, hoping to make a difference by walking in the streets in large crowds, with the banners stating "Stop the Killings". But they do this so often anymore, nobody notices or seems to care.
The Chicago cops are between a rock and a hard place. They make an arrest of one of these punks, or a shooting occurs between the perp and the police, COPA Civilian Office of Police Accountability will be breathing down their neck, looking for an excuse to make an example of a police officer doing their job.
The new mayor made a career of going after the police as an attorney before getting elected. She has no respect for the police either. As you probably saw when her comments were picked up on a hot mic at a city council meeting, referring to a union official for the police as "this FOP Clown".
I'm not surprised so many crimes go unsolved, as the police are brow beaten by the politicians every day. Rather then fighting crime, they're fighting city hall, and all as the criminals run the streets, unchecked by a broken system.
Chicago politics have created most of their own problems, when former Mayor Richy M Daley decided to tear down all the housing projects, and created the scattered site housing program, every neighborhood in Chicago had the gangbangers moving into their somewhat peaceful communities. At least before the projects were torn down, the cops knew where the criminals were. Since then, all hell has broken loose, mostly due to drugs and turf wars all over the city.
For someone who did not grow up in Chicago, it's pretty clear to me why this criminal behavior is happening.

Nuke it and start over?