New member with 77 Newport

[commando1]

I don't see how one can do a color change without stripping the car down to a bare shell and not depreciate the value of the car.
A so-so car can take that hit and it is no big deal.
From what I have seen, this was not a so-so car.

 

[Rick Saucier]

I don't see how one can do a color change without stripping the car down to a bare shell and not depreciate the value of the car.
A so-so car can take that hit and it is no big deal.
From what I have seen, this was not a so-so car.

The one issue that I might not have made known was that there was a respray already on this car (a little darker than the original, but close), it was not the original paint, so any de-valuing was already done.

Tough to believe. Must be wholesale prices. I went with medium priced materials when painting the Admiral last year, only painted the exterior and have about 1K in primer, paint, clear and misc supplies needed. All total I ended up with about 4K invested for a decent driver quality paint job.

Again I have not accounted for my time as I did this between customer jobs.

Cost for a gallon of single stage urethane;



Costs for the activator, reducer, filters ect,



Plus about $50.00 in sandpaper, tape and paper.

I would've went with a darker blue or silver even but I definitely couldn't have kept a powder blue car.

Nope, it wasn't growing on me at all. I had hoped it would, but alas it was not to be.

F-it... it's your car. So long as she comes out better than a Maaco job at $650... but you lost at least $50 in resale value, it's now $2450.

LOL

Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful. Just calling it as I see it.

Non taken, I prefer honesty over bullshit.


Under the trunk,



Doors,



Jambs,



Under the hood,



Getting ready to spray. I like to mix what I need first so that I'm not having to mix paint in the middle of a coat.



Almost finished,












and done!










this is straight of the gun without any wet sanding or polish.

Sooooo much better than before...




more to come!



cheers

 

[detmatt]

What, all that and you're not keeping it???

 

[bluefury361]

What, all that and you're not keeping it???

What did you expect Matt, he's a flipper. I still like the before best.

 

[commando1]

The before wasn't original.
Because of that I give this or any other gentleman the right go at it with the paint. He bought it devalued. Being in the Resto business, he can only make it better.

 

[cantflip]

The one issue that I might not have made known was that there was a respray already on this car (a little darker than the original, but close), it was not the original paint, so any de-valuing was already done.




Again I have not accounted for my time as I did this between customer jobs.

Cost for a gallon of single stage urethane;



Costs for the activator, reducer, filters ect,



Plus about $50.00 in sandpaper, tape and paper.



Nope, it wasn't growing on me at all. I had hoped it would, but alas it was not to be.



LOL



Non taken, I prefer honesty over bullshit.


Under the trunk,



Doors,



Jambs,



Under the hood,



Getting ready to spray. I like to mix what I need first so that I'm not having to mix paint in the middle of a coat.



Almost finished,












and done!










this is straight of the gun without any wet sanding or polish.

Sooooo much better than before...




more to come!



cheers

You beat the maaco jobs I've seen... looks good.

 

[Caper]

1977 Chrysler Newport St-Regis | eBay
Interesting to see how many bids it gets if listed in white. Any updates on the engine knock?

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Looks better in white.

 

[bluefury361]

[QUOTE="commando1,
Because of that I give this or any other gentleman the right go at it with the paint.
QUOTE]

Anyone who slaps down the cash to buy a vehicle has the RIGHT to do what he wants to do to the vehicle. But that don't make it RIGHT from a preservation stand point.

A young/new collector could buy this car without the knowledge it has suffered a color change and not be aware of the devaluation due to that. Granted, it is not a high end car, but the principal stands.

This is just the ramblings of a purest, of course. A stunning and unusual color combination has been turned into a "ho-hum" vehicle that will rarely turn heads.

 

[Rick Saucier]

What, all that and you're not keeping it???

What did you expect Matt, he's a flipper. I still like the before best.

My intention right from the start was to flip it, once I set a price we'll see how it goes and if it doesn't sell right away I'l drive it for the summer as it's such a lovely car to drive

The before wasn't original.
Because of that I give this or any other gentleman the right go at it with the paint. He bought it devalued. Being in the Resto business, he can only make it better.

Yes by painting it white it has opened up a much larger pool of potential buyers.

You beat the maaco jobs I've seen... looks good.

Thanks!

1977 Chrysler Newport St-Regis | eBay
Interesting to see how many bids it gets if listed in white. Any updates on the engine knock?

I'm going to list it again, same listing but with the white photos and we'll see how it goes.

Looks better in white.

Agreed

[QUOTE="commando1,
Because of that I give this or any other gentleman the right go at it with the paint.
QUOTE]

Anyone who slaps down the cash to buy a vehicle has the RIGHT to do what he wants to do to the vehicle. But that don't make it RIGHT from a preservation stand point.

A young/new collector could buy this car without the knowledge it has suffered a color change and not be aware of the devaluation due to that. Granted, it is not a high end car, but the principal stands.

This is just the ramblings of a purest, of course. A stunning and unusual color combination has been turned into a "ho-hum" vehicle that will rarely turn heads.

Beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder, your definition of stunning and unusual is to me horrid and unsightly. And "ho-hum" is to me "more sell-able"

But that's what makes this world go round, differences of opinions lol!


cheers

 

[Rick Saucier]

1977 Chrysler Newport St-Regis | eBay
Interesting to see how many bids it gets if listed in white. Any updates on the engine knock?

Well I tore into the engine today for the purpose of getting rid of the lean burn system.



Got some goodies for it, Edelbrock carb and performer intake, new HEI electronic ignition system with new coil, wires and plugs.





And a timing chain as well, I figured it would still have the original chain with nylon cam gear and she didn't disappoint lol. The chain was almost ready to jump a tooth or two.



As well while taking it all apart the worn out water pump bearing made itself know. There is both axial and radial play in the shaft so this is what I'm assuming was the noise from the engine, along with all the slop in the timing chain lol.

Should have back together tomorrow so we'll see!


cheers

 

[Caper]

Thanks for the updates. Great thread.

 

[Rick Saucier]

Well after the new timing chain and water pump was installed the woodpecker in the engine seemed to grow even louder lol!

So if any of you were wondering, yes you can remove the oil pan with the engine in the frame.

- You have to remove the Y pipe, If running true duals you might be able to leave them on.
- Remove the center link attachments at the idler and pit-man arms.
- Remove the nuts on the engine mount bolts, the bolts just sit in a V notch on the frame attachments.
- Raise the engine and once the bolts are clear of the frame cradles I just tapped them in further and lowered the engine back down and it just rested high enough to clear the oil pan.

Here you can see the bolt head resting on top of the frame mount.



Oil pan removed,



#1 rod bearing journal,



Yep, bearing is toast,



So the decision was made to remove the engine and get the crank machined, had to red-neck the **** out of my engine hoist to reach the engine without have to remove the front bumper and fascia.



And remove the front tires to get the clearance lol, but it all went well. Tomorrow we pull the crank out and send it to the machine shop.




Cheers

 

[1978 NYB]

This is getting to be a costly project to flip.

 

[1978 NYB]

Nice paint by the way!

 

[Rick Saucier]

Nice paint by the way!

Thanks!

This is getting to be a costly project to flip.

Yes the price is rising, but the final sale price if I sell it will hopefully be in the black


cheers

 

[detmatt]

Nice work, it'll be interesting to see what it brings in the end.

 

[75LandYacht]

I like that you willing to repair what's needed via passing it in for the new owner to deal with. Means you care about the hobby and these old cars. Nice work.

 

[1978 NYB]

Too bad you didn't live south of the border....I have some work for you.

 

[commando1]

Too bad you didn't live south of the border....I have some work for you.

One last thing I fantasize about doing is to drop my stub frame and detailing it and the engine compartment to show quality.

But that ain't gonna happen.