OK you truckers...

You have to bag the air cleaner(s) kill the air. Or if you can shut off the tank valves for fuel but if it has run away on oil, cutting the air is the only thing that will stop it. That Pete looks like a fuel run away (black and gray smoke), oil is usually blue/white.
The cops are foolish in that situation if someone has a idea/plan. Letting it sit there and get hot and possible very hot fire, very quickly is not a sound plan, even if fire department is there.

Driver should have immediately stopped truck set brakes and tried to stall it in a high gear.
 
70bigblockdodge said:
You have to bag the air cleaner(s) kill the air. Or if you can shut off the tank valves for fuel but if it has run away on oil, cutting the air is the only thing that will stop it. That Pete looks like a fuel run away (black and gray smoke), oil is usually blue/white.
The cops are foolish in that situation if someone has a idea/plan. Letting it sit there and get hot and possible very hot fire, very quickly is not a sound plan, even if fire department is there.

Driver should have immediately stopped truck set brakes and tried to stall it in a high gear.
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I have done that with a car .. smothered the carb. but already under the hood, aircleaner off, etc. but i WAS panicking. it was loud, i was frazzled, thinking it would pop outta gear and other irrational stuff. i was shakin' for half hour afterward.

this driver .. dunno his circumstances, aptitude, demeanor .. didnt seem to have a clue how to stop it from the clip. he was IN the truck when this happened, guess tried to shut it off but that didnt work/or in his panic forgot and just jumped out? took it outta gear obviously but after trying to stall it?

how long does it take to get "under the hood" of that Pete truck -- do you need two guys? do you need a bedsheet sized cloth to stop the air? do that even teach drivers about this in trucker school? are there emergency fuel shutoffs in these old rigs? do the cops/FD get trained for these situations?

belchin all that smoke, making all that noise .. i guess i can see standing back as a reasonable course and let my insurance company deal with it.

Or its just hopeless .. like the Titanic was gonna go down given that big gash under the waterline, so was the situation with this truck being doomed from the minute it went rogue?
 
The rest of the #990 post video story. Before you view it, guess what happened?

Pete everywhere? Non event? Something in between?

 
That smoke and noise would definitely shake anybody up. Turning the key off and having it not stop like tens of thousands times before will throw a wrench in the works. CDL and mechanical aptitude are not guaranteed together. Classic styled Pete's like that one are hanging on both sides of the cab. A couple of Wal Mart bags may have stopped it, but in a panic who knows. My first thought would have been to jump under and shut fuel valves. Newer trucks which that one may be do not have shut offs on the tanks again driver and mechanical aptitude. Friend of mine had a N 14 Cummins that would start to climb in rpms when trying to figure out which injector was bad, was fueling backwards through manifold
 
We had a H2S shut off installed on the KW I drove, it closed a butterfly at the air intake. Once activated it had to be reset manually, and at the switch. Once the gas get into the intake, it increases the rpm's until it melts down or grenades, as the gas has typically flooded the location. Thank God, I never had to use it. 6wd lockers, and an 18spd, sure made for alot of fun driving, I do miss driving this truck.
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barnfind said:
the KW I drove, it closed a butterfly at the air intake. Once activated it had to be reset manually, and at the switch. Once the gas get into the intake, it increases the rpm's until it melts down or grenades
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Bet that would be fun, start running faster because of the atmosphere.
 
70bigblockdodge said:
That smoke and noise would definitely shake anybody up. Turning the key off and having it not stop like tens of thousands times before will throw a wrench in the works. CDL and mechanical aptitude are not guaranteed together. Classic styled Pete's like that one are hanging on both sides of the cab. A couple of Wal Mart bags may have stopped it, but in a panic who knows. My first thought would have been to jump under and shut fuel valves. Newer trucks which that one may be do not have shut offs on the tanks again driver and mechanical aptitude. Friend of mine had a N 14 Cummins that would start to climb in rpms when trying to figure out which injector was bad, was fueling backwards through manifold
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I have to ask now... I never managed to fk up that bad, so I have not been there first hand. I have heard stories about the big turbos eating phone books and lauan when techs tried to choke them out. A walmart bag over the filter was like a sudden ray of sunshine in the dark here... what other genius can I steal from you today?
 
Watch from 1.00 till about 3:50 .. this video deals with the runaway diesel shutdown .. why it usually happens (same stuff cantflip said) but importantly the best way to stop it (a variant of what 70BBDodge said). even has example like the white Pete.



apparently this is kinda common in diesels .. if you can get compilation vids like this one it must be happenin all the time (vs. gas ICE's) around the world

 
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cantflip said:
I have to ask now... I never managed to fk up that bad, so I have not been there first hand. I have heard stories about the big turbos eating phone books and lauan when techs tried to choke them out. A walmart bag over the filter was like a sudden ray of sunshine in the dark here... what other genius can I steal from you today?
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Over the exposed air cleaners on truck like that Pete, sure. If techs are running a engine without a air filter or piping in front of that 80,000 RPM impeller, I would say get your truck out of there as fast as you can. Yes a open turbo on a full bore run away I would say it will suck the bag in and I'm not putting my hands anywhere near that inlet.
I still say the driver could have stalled it by standing on the brakes and letting the clutch out slow in a high gear. Maybe it would snap the transmission input shaft.
 
barnfind said:
looks like a deuce and a half, cool vid.
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That would explain the ability to go anywhere, plus I wasn't paying that much attention to the truck, I was wondering what the combined IQ was. For the record, I'd have fit in fine with their vocabulary, and no, I'm not proud.
 
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