RKC
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I need tires for my 1968 Newport Chrysler. What vendors sell P225/75R14 tires with a narrow white wall? I could not find any on the Internet. Thanks!
P225/75R14 Tires
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I found them at the Tire Rack website in Hankook brand Kinergy ST. They list both BW and WW in that size.
The website is www.tirerack.com . This link might not work, so input the address manually.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
The website is www.tirerack.com . This link might not work, so input the address manually.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
RKC
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I called Tire Rack. These tires are no longer made as of January 2024. They did not have any 14" available.
GregG48203
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Summit Racing might have something available in that size; otherwise, Coker Tire certainly will have something.
When I was looking at them several days ago, on their website, the WW "noted" "In Stock". Interesting, as it seems they are still in the Hankook catalog, but seem to be "unobtainium" when anybody asks for them. Nexen is another brand to look at. From that, some Viet Namese brands.
I went through this last year and didn't find anything reasonably priced. I ended up buying black wall 215-75R14 Hancooks from Amazon and then found and bought some slightly used white wall versions of the same tire. (BTW, I still have those almost new black wall 215-75R14 tires and would make a great deal for someone.)
Here's what I've learned.... Stay away from Coker tire. They have a really bad reputation for selling junk, then not standing behind that junk. Diamond Back tires does have a much better reputation but they were over my budget. Auburn Premium - 15 Inch White Wall Tires - Classic Car Tires They do have that tire size, but it looks like the narrow white wall would be special order.
I was thinking of using these on my black walls, but found my WW tires first. White Wall for ANY TIRE | TIRE STICKERS No idea if they work or not, but it looks like it might.
As much as I hate to say it, the real solution is to start looking at 15" options.
To me, one issue with Coker is that Corky sold the business a couple of years ago. Yes, they did expand their offerings, but apparently quality control is not what it needs to be. Especially as they used to build a lot of what they sold inhouse. Far too expensive for any vehicle which will see daily use!
Diamond Back gets closer, with their vulcanized whitewalls onto blackwall tires. Still too expensive, but better. Have to watch for seasonal sales!
Just like the 14" sizes which used to be on vehicles "everywhere", the 15" sizes are starting to be the same way. But for someone doing an OEM-correct car, 15" might not be a good option, as to judging issues. Which might mean some repro Magnum500s in 15" and "some" kind of tires to fit them.
Even if other repro tire vendors are used, $$$ will still be there. Plus them being bias-ply rather than radial.
MANY decisions!
CBODY67
Diamond Back gets closer, with their vulcanized whitewalls onto blackwall tires. Still too expensive, but better. Have to watch for seasonal sales!
Just like the 14" sizes which used to be on vehicles "everywhere", the 15" sizes are starting to be the same way. But for someone doing an OEM-correct car, 15" might not be a good option, as to judging issues. Which might mean some repro Magnum500s in 15" and "some" kind of tires to fit them.
Even if other repro tire vendors are used, $$$ will still be there. Plus them being bias-ply rather than radial.
MANY decisions!
CBODY67
For any of these, white-wall status (yes/no) is unknown, and actual availability is unknown (but maybe yes if ebay listings are valid)
225-70-14
- Kinergy ST ($112)
- Kinergy ST offered on ebay in this size ($463 for set of 4)
- General Altimax RT43 ($126)
- General Altimax RT45 ($131)
- Cooper Radial GT ($143)
- BF Goodrich Radial T/A ($180)
215-75-14
- Hankook Kinergy ST ($98)
- Kinergy on ebay is available, single or set of 4
- Maxxis M8008 ST Radial ($122) trailer tire
- Hankook Vantra ($136) trailer tire
- Goodyear Endurance ($181) trailer tire
225-75-14
- probably not going to find any, some possible:
- Kontio Whitepaw Classic (ebay, $262) wide white wall
- Cooper Trandsetter SE
Do you know your rim width? If 5.5" I wouldn't go with anything wider than 215. If 6 or 6.5 inch then you're good for 225.
Sadly, yes, I agree that 15" tires are fast becoming the only logical choice, but it requires a new set of rims and covers.
I guess I was lucky to pick up a set of the Kinergy 215-75-14 a couple years ago. I'm only now getting around to mounting them to a set of (I believe) period-correct magnums. Here's how it compares to a G78-14 Uniroyal Fastrack:
225-70-14
- Kinergy ST ($112)
- Kinergy ST offered on ebay in this size ($463 for set of 4)
- General Altimax RT43 ($126)
- General Altimax RT45 ($131)
- Cooper Radial GT ($143)
- BF Goodrich Radial T/A ($180)
215-75-14
- Hankook Kinergy ST ($98)
- Kinergy on ebay is available, single or set of 4
- Maxxis M8008 ST Radial ($122) trailer tire
- Hankook Vantra ($136) trailer tire
- Goodyear Endurance ($181) trailer tire
225-75-14
- probably not going to find any, some possible:
- Kontio Whitepaw Classic (ebay, $262) wide white wall
- Cooper Trandsetter SE
Do you know your rim width? If 5.5" I wouldn't go with anything wider than 215. If 6 or 6.5 inch then you're good for 225.
Sadly, yes, I agree that 15" tires are fast becoming the only logical choice, but it requires a new set of rims and covers.
I guess I was lucky to pick up a set of the Kinergy 215-75-14 a couple years ago. I'm only now getting around to mounting them to a set of (I believe) period-correct magnums. Here's how it compares to a G78-14 Uniroyal Fastrack:
RKC
Member
Summit Racing only has the wide white wall. It looks like a Coker.
Trailer tires are designed as such, not for a car or pickup truck. Which is why their tread design is what it is. Not designed to be on a steering axle, which can also affect how things are placed internally. Not to say they couldn't be, which is why they are designated "trailer tire" so people would NOT put them on a steering axle.
polara66hardtop
Senior Member
I installed the Vercelli 215/75-14 WW, (made in Thailand) and the car (69 Coronet) drives like they did in the 70's. I have no complaints so far.
under 98 bucks to your door.I also bought 215/70-14 but I don't care for the low profile look.
under 98 bucks to your door.I also bought 215/70-14 but I don't care for the low profile look.
Not only that, but the sidewalls are thicker and stiffer which will give a harsh ride. General construction, like the cords and belts are usually beefier too. I read once that the rubber is even different. The ones I used to buy always had a narrower tread width too.
RKC
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I followed-up on all of the suggestions provided by members of this forum and unfortunately, I can't find P22575R14 tires with a small whitewall stripe any where. I don't want to go with 15" because then I can't use the original wheel covers.
I'm guessing that if the car makers had available to them in the 60's the stronger side-walls of today's 14 inch trailer tires they would have jumped at them. They were desperately seeking those layers of heavy-duty plys back in the day. The torsion bars easily absorb what the tires can't.
Actually, they had tires like that back then. While radials weren't in use much in the USA, there was bias ply tires that were available for trailers and trucks with more plies. Not unusual to get 6 or 8 ply tires used even on pick ups. Usually the car tires were 4 ply, then went to a 2 ply that was 4 ply rated. IIRC, there were even some with 4 ply tread and 2 ply sidewalls.
If you really get into it, the US car makers were 20 years behind European car makers as far as tires go. Radials were available back in the 50's, and used on European cars, but it was the 70's before they started becoming standard on some US cars and the 80's before they all had them.
cbarge
World Famous Barge in a Budget
As a 68 Newport owner, ditch the 14's and go 15's
23570R15 or 22575R15 will make you happy.
Magnum 500's also look snazzy on these slabs..
23570R15 or 22575R15 will make you happy.
Magnum 500's also look snazzy on these slabs..
In bias-ply tires, if they were 4-ply tires, the entire tire was 4-ply, not just the tread. There were 2-ply tires in the earlier 1960s in rayon cord, that were 4-ply rated (with larger-diameter cords) that rode smoother and didn't last as long as the better 4-ply nylon cord tires did. When Polyester cord appeared in about 1965, it was better than nylon as to over-night flat-spotting tendencies, and rode better than nylon cord tires did, although nearly as strong as the nylon tires were. In THIS case, "strength" related to being harder to damage by running over road hazards and such.
At this time, "car" tires were 4-ply (some were 2-ply, 4-ply rated), "pickup truck" tires were 6-ply or 8-ply, with some being 10-ply tires.
In the middle 1960s and into the 1980s, a H78 tire usually weighed 28-30 lbs. The sidewall rubber was thick and substantial. Had to resist "curb contacts", with BFG egen putting additional rubber on the outside sidewall to protect the whitewalls from scuffing and such. Compare that to modern P-Metric size radials and the weight of P225/75 tires, which are usually 25 pounds in weight. Other than a generally thinner-build in the tread area of the carcass, the sidewalls are noticeably thinner by comparison. Some of the former stiffness has been compensated for by internal "bead reinforcements" which can go out to about 1/2 the way to the tread area. Those stiffeners enhance steering response and handling.
The bias-belted tires which appeared in the later 1960s were a hybrid version of the bias-ply construction. A 2-ply carcass for a smooth ride and better impact harness absorption, but with a radial-type outer belt to keep the tread firm against the roadway. Remember the Goodyear commercials about "tire squirm"?
Europeans had had radial tires since the 1940s or so? With all of the import tariffs and costs related to gasoline fuels, they needed all the help for their small engines (due to national taxes and fuel costs) could get.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
At this time, "car" tires were 4-ply (some were 2-ply, 4-ply rated), "pickup truck" tires were 6-ply or 8-ply, with some being 10-ply tires.
In the middle 1960s and into the 1980s, a H78 tire usually weighed 28-30 lbs. The sidewall rubber was thick and substantial. Had to resist "curb contacts", with BFG egen putting additional rubber on the outside sidewall to protect the whitewalls from scuffing and such. Compare that to modern P-Metric size radials and the weight of P225/75 tires, which are usually 25 pounds in weight. Other than a generally thinner-build in the tread area of the carcass, the sidewalls are noticeably thinner by comparison. Some of the former stiffness has been compensated for by internal "bead reinforcements" which can go out to about 1/2 the way to the tread area. Those stiffeners enhance steering response and handling.
The bias-belted tires which appeared in the later 1960s were a hybrid version of the bias-ply construction. A 2-ply carcass for a smooth ride and better impact harness absorption, but with a radial-type outer belt to keep the tread firm against the roadway. Remember the Goodyear commercials about "tire squirm"?
Europeans had had radial tires since the 1940s or so? With all of the import tariffs and costs related to gasoline fuels, they needed all the help for their small engines (due to national taxes and fuel costs) could get.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
Yes, the 15" Magnum 500s or similar VN501s solve problems. Getting into the 15" tire sizes AND not having to worry about a suitable wheel cover for the car.
It's getting to be "sale time", so watch the sales at Summit Racing, Jeg's, or similar.
Happy Holidays,
CBODY67
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