#ReleaseThe Memo

[tbm3fan]

I did read it. It's just more nonsense about so-and-so talked to a Russian. The "memo" says no FISA warrant without the Steele piece. That's contradicted by yet another "unnamed source". I've moved on to asking how the Russians made this election happen.

Then you didn't understand which is why you used the term nonsense. First, no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence. There was much more government information in order to get such a warrant. The staffers knew that when the memo was written and it is why the whole transcript for the warrant has not been released. So all the memo shows you in one piece of the pie but not the whole pie. The Democrat memo no doubt mentions that but that is also being kept under wraps to protect their story. I want the whole pie. This "memo" is only an opinion not fact.

Near the end they stupidly mention Papadopoulos triggering the opening of an FBI counter intelligence investigation based on a tip from Australian Government sources in July of 2016. That is several months before their date in October where they say the origination started. Poor editing by an amateur leading to a big over sight. With some former Tea Party members saying this was dumb, with Republican Senators saying this was dumb, but the fact that Nunes and Trump are not the brightest bulbs in the universe it is no surprise.

The memo should have been titled "How I learned to Accidentally Confirm the Basis for the Mueller Investigation"

 

[Carmine]

Then you didn't understand which is why you used the term nonsense. First, no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence. There was much more government information in order to get such a warrant. The staffers knew that when the memo was written and it is why the whole transcript for the warrant has not been released. So all the memo shows you in one piece of the pie but not the whole pie. The Democrat memo no doubt mentions that but that is also being kept under wraps to protect their story. I want the whole pie. This "memo" is only an opinion not fact.

Near the end they stupidly mention Papadopoulos triggering the opening of an FBI counter intelligence investigation based on a tip from Australian Government sources in July of 2016. That is several months before their date in October where they say the origination started. Poor editing by an amateur leading to a big over sight. With some former Tea Party members saying this was dumb, with Republican Senators saying this was dumb, but the fact that Nunes and Trump are not the brightest bulbs in the universe it is no surprise.

The memo should have been titled "How I learned to Accidentally Confirm the Basis for the Mueller Investigation"

Be careful now, because your bias is showing... declaring a whole group of people dim bulbs who actually had achievements outside of government before attaining Federal office is the condescending manner in which you lose elections. I might also think it's a wee bit hypocritical declare one side "dumb" while the FBI has extramarital lovers texting each other about political "insurance policies" or texting how to get around message archiving. Dumb might also be used to describe DNC leaders who continued to use the same email system after being made aware of security breaches.

I label this so-called relavation as nonsense for the very same reason you cited. "no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence."

You do realize the argument works the other way as well? "We don't have enough based on what may have been said to an Australian intelligence officer, so let's use this political fairy tale funded by the Clinton's as additional evidence."

The credibility of the Papadopoulos surveillance as requires belief that DNC emails were in fact stolen by Russians, which Jullian Assange has denied since day one. Or believe the same CIA that can spoof an email attack as the work of a foreign government.

This so-called investigation was nothing more than an election strategy. When it didn't work, it morphed into a means to undermine the President.

Why undermine the President? Because his policies are contrary to the desires of a global elite. That's the root of the issue. Arguing about time lines, the validity of sources, surveillance, etc. is just a side show to drive the news cycle.

If you buy into the idea of a borderless world of speech codes, unelected bureaucrats, group rights, equalization of outcome, and the infallible supremacy of humankind; you'll find your arguments.

If you believe in sovereignty, freedom of speech, representative democracy, individual rights, equalized opportunity and the right to "exist" for your own sake; you'll again find arguments.

That's really the root of this whole debate. As technology has progressed, the latter argument has never been in greater jeopardy.

 

[65 500]

Be careful now, because your bias is showing... declaring a whole group of people dim bulbs who actually had achievements outside of government before attaining Federal office is the condescending manner in which you lose elections. I might also think it's a wee bit hypocritical declare one side "dumb" while the FBI has extramarital lovers texting each other about political "insurance policies" or texting how to get around message archiving. Dumb might also be used to describe DNC leaders who continued to use the same email system after being made aware of security breaches.

I label this so-called relavation as nonsense for the very same reason you cited. "no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence."

You do realize the argument works the other way as well? "We don't have enough based on what may have been said to an Australian intelligence officer, so let's use this political fairy tale funded by the Clinton's as additional evidence."

The credibility of the Papadopoulos surveillance as requires belief that DNC emails were in fact stolen by Russians, which Jullian Assange has denied since day one. Or believe the same CIA that can spoof an email attack as the work of a foreign government.

This so-called investigation was nothing more than an election strategy. When it didn't work, it morphed into a means to undermine the President.

Why undermine the President? Because his policies are contrary to the desires of a global elite. That's the root of the issue. Arguing about time lines, the validity of sources, surveillance, etc. is just a side show to drive the news cycle.

If you buy into the idea of a borderless world of speech codes, unelected bureaucrats, group rights, equalization of outcome, and the infallible supremacy of humankind; you'll find your arguments.

If you believe in sovereignty, freedom of speech, representative democracy, individual rights, equalized opportunity and the right to "exist" for your own sake; you'll again find arguments.

That's really the root of this whole debate. As technology has progressed, the latter argument has never been in greater jeopardy.

Carmine, you do realize that you are arguing with THE Expert On EVERYTHING!

 

[polara71]

Be careful now, because your bias is showing... declaring a whole group of people dim bulbs who actually had achievements outside of government before attaining Federal office is the condescending manner in which you lose elections. I might also think it's a wee bit hypocritical declare one side "dumb" while the FBI has extramarital lovers texting each other about political "insurance policies" or texting how to get around message archiving. Dumb might also be used to describe DNC leaders who continued to use the same email system after being made aware of security breaches.

I label this so-called relavation as nonsense for the very same reason you cited. "no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence."

You do realize the argument works the other way as well? "We don't have enough based on what may have been said to an Australian intelligence officer, so let's use this political fairy tale funded by the Clinton's as additional evidence."

The credibility of the Papadopoulos surveillance as requires belief that DNC emails were in fact stolen by Russians, which Jullian Assange has denied since day one. Or believe the same CIA that can spoof an email attack as the work of a foreign government.

This so-called investigation was nothing more than an election strategy. When it didn't work, it morphed into a means to undermine the President.

Why undermine the President? Because his policies are contrary to the desires of a global elite. That's the root of the issue. Arguing about time lines, the validity of sources, surveillance, etc. is just a side show to drive the news cycle.

If you buy into the idea of a borderless world of speech codes, unelected bureaucrats, group rights, equalization of outcome, and the infallible supremacy of humankind; you'll find your arguments.

If you believe in sovereignty, freedom of speech, representative democracy, individual rights, equalized opportunity and the right to "exist" for your own sake; you'll again find arguments.

That's really the root of this whole debate. As technology has progressed, the latter argument has never been in greater jeopardy.

Since there is no like and thank you button ...

 

[polara71]

Carmine, you do realize that you are arguing with THE Expert On EVERYTHING!

You too .....?

 

[65 500]

You too .....?

Yup.

 

[78Brougham]

"no Federal judge is going to issue a FISA warrant on one piece of information or one piece of evidence."

They will if they're a "lackey" for the Obama administration!

 

[rapidtrans]

They did their judge shopping well. I’d like to hear that judge explain his side.
Usually he or she that yells the loudest is full of it! The Chuck and Nancy show is really getting old.