I can't help but think about the movie "Idiocracy" and how it may not be that far in the future.
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commando1
Old Man with a Hat
How many times have we blurted out, "I could just kill someone"...
No more. They'll commit you.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
Problem is your statement is open to many questions. The biggest one being how will someone respond to having a loaded gun pointed at them or an assault type rifle pointed directly at them. Not the same as shooting a paper target at 10 yards. Even studies on police accuracy show they are not that great at that distance with handguns. That will always be the big unknown and while it may de deadly for the criminal it could also be deadly for the citizen or citizens in the immediate area making the result a possible tossup.
Your point is well taken. Most mass shooters pick an area where they believe there will be no return fire. They are cowards after all.
Dave
It always amazes me when I see police reports and the number of rounds fired and the few rounds that actually hit somebody. In my (lifetime) line of work that level of poor marksmanship is totally unacceptable......and would result in an untimely demise. My advice is if you or anyone can't safely master a weapon and know when and how to utilize it.....might be best to leave it to the people that can handle it.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
Easy to say, but with the "it's my constitutional right" philosophy that is never going to happen.
In the early 1960's, there was a study done about combat readiness. Troops in those days were still shooting at bulls eye type targets. It was found that something approaching 20% of troops would not shoot at another human being, even if being fired upon. The Army was installing updated ranges with self setting targets and the decision was made to use man sized silhouettes instead of traditional targets. This conditioned troops to reflexively shoot at a human form that appeared suddenly. Failure to fire rates were reduced but not completely eliminated.
During the Vietnam era, it was found that when the **** hit the fan, troops would fire on full auto in the direction of contact, many were taught to do this for purposes of suppressive fire. Problem was that the recoil from full auto fire usually meant after about the 3rd round from a twenty round clip the bullets were arching up and knocking out the tops out of trees, not very effective against adversaries in the prone position. Also wasted lots of ammunition. During the height of the Vietnam War, it took about 1200 rounds to produce one hostile casualty. The other factor causing ammunition wastage was the effects of adrenalin on the human body. Causes hyper sensitive reactions and often minor tremors that make it very difficult to aim carefully. This can be overcome with high stress training, but few troops received that type of training except for special operations forces (Seals, Marine Recon, Green Berets, Rangers etc.). After the end of the Vietnam War, the M-16 rifle was redesigned with a heavier, more accurate barrel and a three shot burst feature to limit auto fire wastage. In my opinion, the burst feature was a POS because the was a different trigger pull for each single shot fired which took a lot of getting used to. The bullets were also redesigned to be heavier and more stable in flight. This pretty much offset the funky trigger pull.
The point of all this is that there will just about always be lots of rounds fired in a firefight situation and the only solution is to neutralize the threat quickly. Most concealed carry shooters are not up to professional grade, but neither are most mass shooters, so that part of the equation is about a push. Somebody returning hostile fire is always better than no one returning fire. The most recent bank shooter gave up after suffering a minor wound from the swat team, snowflake got an boo boo.
Dave
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commando1
Old Man with a Hat
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Old Man with a Hat
It's funny you mentioned this, in a episode of Ross Kemp where he was embedded with British Forces in Afghanistan the patrol was pinned down on a hilltop in the British version (I guess) of the Bradley with a 50cal on top trying to take out 5 or 6 Taliban with AK47's. I said Jay'zuhs look at all the brass on the ground (piles), they finally had to call in the Americans jets and drop a couple of (?) hundreds pounds bombs to take them out so they could proceed.
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Old Man with a Hat
From there: "Xaver had recently been in training to become a prison guard. He was hired on November 2, 2018, by the Avon Park Correctional Institution in Highlands County as a correctional officer trainee"
So he was a prison guard, I thought I heard that on the news while I was waiting for the weather report on the storm that came through here about that time. I'll tell ya I'm getting so I don't even want to watch TV anymore between all the crap shows, commercials (pill ad's) and mass shooting every week it's no wonder I just loaded up my Dakar 2019 playlist to a USB drive and it's been pretty much on 24/7 since the end of the race.
Sheeech.
Onward to the Rolex and I'll have IMSA.tv incar cam's for 24 hours at least, and it appears that Magnus Racing is here this year with their live pit show which is a hoot.
78Brougham
"Chump"
As a former prison guard trainee, I bet he knows that he will need lots of K-Y jelly, not that he would be lucky enough to bring any into the joint.
Dave
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commando1
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Whatever, now you know why I don't turn on the TV.
Here on the Talk Radio they were berating one of our county guards that was just arrested for trading candy for oral sex with a female inmate. Had decades in, was a Sergeant IIRC, 60k a year pay, threw away his retirement most likely, they were laughing on the radio "that is one expensive blowjob".
A 60k year salary and retirement, for a hummer? Hope it was worth it. And what kind of self esteem did this inmate have, to do that for candy?Whatever, now you know why I don't turn on the TV.
Here on the Talk Radio they were berating one of our county guards that was just arrested for trading candy for oral sex with a female inmate. Had decades in, was a Sergeant IIRC, 60k a year pay, threw away his retirement most likely, they were laughing on the radio "that is one expensive blowjob".
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Deputies searching for man in five killings across two parishes
Most of you guys feel lucky that you can have a gun …..
Most of the European feel lucky we can,t…….
Most of you guys feel lucky that you can have a gun …..
Most of the European feel lucky we can,t…….
That's sad.
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Old Man with a Hat
Yea well I was thinking here comes another lawsuit for the County (inmate) but I'll bet she has a street walker drug habit, boohoo record so I don't think many lawyers will help her but the County will throw money at her just to avoid litigation. Guards wife is pregnant and I think I met someone that works with her, ring ring divorce lawyer, lives up in the get out of the ghetto new sprawl north of me in Palm Coast, erm, Palm Jersey.
The trail for the local Salvation Army drug counselor psychologist just ended with a guilty verdict, he's going to be sentenced in the middle of February and will most likely get 30 years for doing something similar, he's already in prison for killing his wife up in Georgia during the 'Fleeing from prosecution' event. The most disturbing part of that affair is that the girl that was a offender from St. Johns County 2 counties to the north of us that borders Duval County (Jacksonville). FFS as if we don't have enough drugged up scum around here we have to import from other counties? It's even worse to the south of me as by the HBO junkie soap opera the guy admits that 80% of these MediCare ripoff rehabs are just scams.
Baaah! And people think I'm to harsh when I call this place Retardville.
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