The Goose
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Time to brake the donuts...
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Chrysler did "bonded" brake shoes. GM used riveted shoes. Lining materials might be the same and the same thickness, but with rivets, you loose about 1/4" of lining use because of the rivets.
The "edge codes" on the sides of the friction material might determine which lining is best. The two letters are for performance when cold and the second letter is performance when hot. "Higher" letters are best. As on the disc brake pads, that code identifies the friction material and its manufacturer, the friction characteristics, and batch number.
Latest friction reformulation is to remove the copper from the friction material. Concur on replacing the wheel cylinders rather than the messy rebuild. Especially for the price differential between a kit and the complete cylinders.
There are two DOT 5-style brake fluids. One is synthetic. One is silicone. Do a good flush of the lines and such. Don't know that DOT 5 is really better than DOT 4 or 3, as far as performance goes.
Use the Ford-spec disc brake wheel bearing lube. It has moly in it. Valvoline might have some in synthetic grease?
Have fun!
CBODY67
The "edge codes" on the sides of the friction material might determine which lining is best. The two letters are for performance when cold and the second letter is performance when hot. "Higher" letters are best. As on the disc brake pads, that code identifies the friction material and its manufacturer, the friction characteristics, and batch number.
Latest friction reformulation is to remove the copper from the friction material. Concur on replacing the wheel cylinders rather than the messy rebuild. Especially for the price differential between a kit and the complete cylinders.
There are two DOT 5-style brake fluids. One is synthetic. One is silicone. Do a good flush of the lines and such. Don't know that DOT 5 is really better than DOT 4 or 3, as far as performance goes.
Use the Ford-spec disc brake wheel bearing lube. It has moly in it. Valvoline might have some in synthetic grease?
Have fun!
CBODY67
Main advantage to DOT 5 Silicone is that it has no elements that become corrosive and it will not pick up moisture. Tends to prolong wheel cylinder life, especially on cars that are not driven frequently.
Dave
You can usually find NOS brake shoes on eBay.
The Goose
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Ok here’s where I am. I got the boss off to England. I got my assistant back to ASU and now it’s just me and the dog. I got the drums pulled and it’s 2” rear and 2 3/4 front. Fronts looked great, the rears were sucking wind.
The Goose
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This jibberish was on the side of the shoe.
Tools will stay exactly where I left them.
As will the car.
Didn’t even get my hands dirty
Tools will stay exactly where I left them.
As will the car.
Didn’t even get my hands dirty
The Goose
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I’ll call Craig tomorrow and get my shoes coming.
I’m tempted to reuse the old wheel bearings they look like new cleaned up.
I’ll make a list of whatever else I need. The hoses are in real nice shape. So they’ll stay put. Wow that’s a real crappy pic. The rubber is like new. I don’t think they’re very old surely not 50 years !!!
And the shoes are riveted. The rears were cracking. I dodged a bullet.
I’m tempted to reuse the old wheel bearings they look like new cleaned up.
I’ll make a list of whatever else I need. The hoses are in real nice shape. So they’ll stay put. Wow that’s a real crappy pic. The rubber is like new. I don’t think they’re very old surely not 50 years !!!
And the shoes are riveted. The rears were cracking. I dodged a bullet.
The Goose
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PS; man I am glad these are not A body 10” drums!!! I spent too many hours in hidden valleys drum pile. Napa always cleaned em up good. But god what a nightmare to find.
I remember hanging out in that drum pile like it was yesterday...
I remember hanging out in that drum pile like it was yesterday...
The letters and numbers on the side of the shoes are lot numbers for the particular batch of friction material. Many are also code marked for the type of material and the rating of the material. While you have it apart, this would be a good time to pull the rear axles and re-pack the rear wheel bearings.
Dave
The Goose
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Kanters ??? Are they something we have out here but under a different name ? We have pep boys almost totally worthless unless you hit an old school ghetto store, auto-zone ours is terrible but the Palmdale one is okay. And then there are my two favorites. Car Quest in Littlerock is so old school it’s scary and the O’reilly in Newhall which is an old school checker auto - they MADE them change the name or it would still say checker outside. Then our NAPA is just a NAPA they just sell parts.
The Goose
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If I pull the axles I know I’ll throw on new bearings and I’ll pull the pig and replace that gasket and clean up the backing plates and paint the rear axle house and then I might as well do the u joints and ...
Dave you’re the devil.
Kanter's is an old car specialist, used to be all catalogs but now has online presence. Never been near their brick house........
Kanter Auto Products, Vintage, Antique, & Classic Auto Parts
Kanter Auto Products, Vintage, Antique, & Classic Auto Parts
The Goose
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It’s now 930 I’m reliving home alone 2, I’m firing up the grill and BBQing the dog and me ribeyes.
The Goose
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Ohhhhhh okay. Like Danchuck or NPD. In Phoenix we had so many walk in specialties shops I never hardly ordered anything online. Out here in Kalifornia it’s a totally different ball game.
Unless your bearings are noisy, there is probably no need to replace them. Throw on some fresh grease and and call it good.
The Goose
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I really like to hold it before I buy it. I know that’s crazy but if I can drive to there I always will.
The Goose
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Thanks man. You were making me feel a little guilty. Honestly I drive the piss out of this thing. I did the brakes chasing Kenny Wayne Sheppard’s demon thru Malibu canyon and on this last trip to the car show I knew in my heart it was brake time. They just worked so good for so long but I could feel it in the pedal you know what I mean?
The Goose
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I’ll let you know how the purchase from New York goes and post pics of those beautiful new old shoes. Thanks guys.
Radio free Kalifornia signing off !!!
Radio free Kalifornia signing off !!!
