Usa v euro

[furyus 67]

Yes, the early 2.2 were absolute 85 hp turd, I think it was the 2nd gen turbo 2.2s when mitsu got involved and power was an impressive 110 thanks to a larger cam and a mitsu td04 turbo. They were still turds. Could you u build the 2.2...yes but still made a better boat anchor.(my opinion ) The 2.6 you did mention were in the conquests and starions.A good 1st attempt. The eagle talon,plymouth lazer and mitsubishi eclipse were all made by a company called DSM. Diamond Star Motors. ALL built in toledo ohio. The turbo cars all had the 4g63. As far as the viper is concerned yea those were cheap. 50+ then and 80+ now. The dsm's were 12-16k new. Lets compare apples to apples. I wont deny they were cool and faster but it was aimed more at the super car market. Not the rice fields!lol

 

[LocuMob]

Yeah, Vipers are slow. :icon_rolleyes:

Yes they are! Lmao.


Those 77 Trans Am's were sadly one of the most powerful cars of the year at 200hp. Still not that impressive.

 

[LocuMob]

Yes, the early 2.2 were absolute 85 hp turd, I think it was the 2nd gen turbo 2.2s when mitsu got involved and power was an impressive 110 thanks to a larger cam and a mitsu td04 turbo. They were still turds. Could you u build the 2.2...yes but still made a better boat anchor.(my opinion ) The 2.6 you did mention were in the conquests and starions.A good 1st attempt. The eagle talon,plymouth lazer and mitsubishi eclipse were all made by a company called DSM. Diamond Star Motors. ALL built in toledo ohio. The turbo cars all had the 4g63. As far as the viper is concerned yea those were cheep. 50+ then and 80+ now. The dsm's were 12-16k new. Lets compare apples to apples. I wont deny they were cool and fast but it was aimed more at the super car market. Not the rice fields!lol

You did mention performance, not price.

 

[furyus 67]

Yes they are! Lmao.


Those 77 Trans Am's were sadly one of the most powerful cars of the year at 200hp. Still not that impressive.

True! Id still love to have a bandit TA. Must be the kid in me. My mom had a 77 when i was kid, I loved it.

 

[65 500]

Yes, the early 2.2 were absolute 85 hp turd, I think it was the 2nd gen turbo 2.2s when mitsu got involved and power was an impressive 110 thanks to a larger cam and a mitsu td04 turbo. They were still turds. Could you u build the 2.2...yes but still made a better boat anchor.(my opinion ) The 2.6 you did mention were in the conquests and starions.A good 1st attempt. The eagle talon,plymouth lazer and mitsubishi eclipse were all made by a company called DSM. Diamond Star Motors. ALL built in toledo ohio. The turbo cars all had the 4g63. As far as the viper is concerned yea those were cheap. 50+ then and 80+ now. The dsm's were 12-16k new. Lets compare apples to apples. I wont deny they were cool and faster but it was aimed more at the super car market. Not the rice fields!lol

2.2's used Garrett turbos for a long time, I don't know if that changed at some point.
DSM plant was in Illinois.
You were comparing a 45 year old, $4000 car to a new $100,000+ car, and then complain about wanting to compare apples to apples.

 

[furyus 67]

I stand corrected, Ive been building jeeps for the last 7yrs and mixed up the plants. I see you found your google. It was normal Illinois. Yes they did use garret turbos at 1st then switched to mitsu. I made no comparison to a 100k car. The Rb25dett and rb26dett were from r33 and r34 skylines. Neither of which were 100k. So I stand by my apples to apples....

 

[65 500]

I didn't need Google, I already knew they weren't built in Toledo. I don't know what year/s an r33 or an r34 Skyline was built, nor do I really care, but I would bet that it wasn't 1969, they weren't $4000, and they didn't weigh 2 tons.

 

[Big blubber]

You's two guys know your stuff so il let you get on with :yes_no:

 

[65 500]

You's two guys know your stuff so il let you get on with :yes_no:

:laughing4: Na I'm done, I've wasted enough time talking about cars I couldn't care less about, I hope you guys enjoyed it though. ccasion14:
And now back to C-bodies. :sFl_america2:

 

[furyus 67]

:laughing4: Na I'm done, I've wasted enough time talking about cars I couldn't care less about, I hope you guys enjoyed it though. ccasion14:
And now back to C-bodies. :sFl_america2:

Agreed. Didnt mean for it to turn into a pissing match lol.

 

[commando1]

Not to worry. This place is one big litter box.

 

[Big blubber]

:laughing4: Na I'm done, I've wasted enough time talking about cars I couldn't care less about, I hope you guys enjoyed it though. ccasion14:
And now back to C-bodies. :sFl_america2:

Yea back to c bodies ,Who was the dumb sh muck that started the post about euro crap ,He should be hunted down and *** whipped lol

 

[LocuMob]

Yea back to c bodies ,Who was the dumb sh muck that started the post about euro crap ,He should be hunted down and *** whipped lol

I'm getting a plane ticket for across the pond and find that guy!

 

[Big blubber]

I'm getting a plane ticket for across the pond and find that guy!

Hee Hee hope you find him