Philip Andrews
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Ordered the older style crank pulley. Let's see if I can make this work.
1966 Fury III - Unfinished Project
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Philip Andrews
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Well, it at least idles and revs up cleanly now.
Philip Andrews
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One of those questions that gets asked.
What does it take to put a big block engine into one of these?
Different engine mounts, is the transmission the same (ie does this 727 bolt up?)
Just thinking for down the road...
What does it take to put a big block engine into one of these?
Different engine mounts, is the transmission the same (ie does this 727 bolt up?)
Just thinking for down the road...
65sporty
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Trans needs to be a big block case, the bellhousing bolt pattern is different
Philip Andrews
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Well.
Help. Me. Understand.
I now have pulleys that fit, but nothing lines up.
All I can suggest is that you need to get the entire pulley setup from a car with the same engine and options - LA small block with power steering.
Crank, alternator brackets, power steering, water pump with fan spacer. EVERYTHING, ALL FROM THE SAME CAR.
You're dealing with mismatching from different years and options. You're going down the rabbit hole, and you may never surface.
Get thee to a wrecker with a 68 small block c with those options.
Crank, alternator brackets, power steering, water pump with fan spacer. EVERYTHING, ALL FROM THE SAME CAR.
You're dealing with mismatching from different years and options. You're going down the rabbit hole, and you may never surface.
Get thee to a wrecker with a 68 small block c with those options.
Philip Andrews
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Yeah, that's where I need to be but nowhere around here has anything old and Mopar in, and all the online houses want to sell 'em piecemeal.
By the time I've bought a pulley set I might as well buy a good used engine in its entirety, all the matching pulleys I found are close to 30% the total cost of a new block.
Given that this one is .. not particularly fresh, I may just shelf this for now and save up.
By the time I've bought a pulley set I might as well buy a good used engine in its entirety, all the matching pulleys I found are close to 30% the total cost of a new block.
Given that this one is .. not particularly fresh, I may just shelf this for now and save up.
This car might have what you need:
Philip Andrews
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I'm kinda at the point where I don't think I want to dump any more money into this engine- it's not great and I was only assembling it so it was easier to move the car about, and possibly as a road going engine for a short time.
I may renege on that and find a workable water pump pulley but I think I'm just gonna save up to put a boat anchor into it for giggles.
Phil
I may renege on that and find a workable water pump pulley but I think I'm just gonna save up to put a boat anchor into it for giggles.
Phil
'66 Fury I
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So, you now have pulleys that do not interfere with each other. If you can align the four pulleys, you can be "in business". Looking at the photos, I cannot give exact suggestions, but here goes some home brew engineering!
Your WP pulley could be aligned by using a shim or shims between the hub and the pulley to move it out to align with the next groove in the crank pulley. Then the alternator pulley can be aligned by using the necessary sleeves on the necessary length bolt. Those sleeves can be made from 3/8" black iron pipe. The PS pump can probably be aligned in a similar manner.
I have watched your ability in your posts and with your obvious talent, I think ti would be a shame to allow this to derail the project. Food for thought at least. Lindsay
Your WP pulley could be aligned by using a shim or shims between the hub and the pulley to move it out to align with the next groove in the crank pulley. Then the alternator pulley can be aligned by using the necessary sleeves on the necessary length bolt. Those sleeves can be made from 3/8" black iron pipe. The PS pump can probably be aligned in a similar manner.
I have watched your ability in your posts and with your obvious talent, I think ti would be a shame to allow this to derail the project. Food for thought at least. Lindsay
Philip Andrews
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It shan't derail the project. I have plenty to do that I'm ignoring (see: rust repair). The alternator will shim up fine. I have a feeling the other PS pump will line up with one groove.
This engine was only ever intended to be a cheap stopgap after I saw the condition of the bores.
Phil
This engine was only ever intended to be a cheap stopgap after I saw the condition of the bores.
Phil
Philip Andrews
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Okay, so.
The other PS pump that doesn't fit this bracket lines up with the water pump pulley.
This PS pump lines up with the crank pulley.
This alternator lines up with this crank pulley.
So, last incorrect portion is the water pump pulley. could just shim this one out so alternator is its own belt from the inner crank groove and the water pump and PS pump share the middle groove.
The other PS pump that doesn't fit this bracket lines up with the water pump pulley.
This PS pump lines up with the crank pulley.
This alternator lines up with this crank pulley.
So, last incorrect portion is the water pump pulley. could just shim this one out so alternator is its own belt from the inner crank groove and the water pump and PS pump share the middle groove.
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Philip Andrews
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Needed something mindless to do after work today so decided on shining up the top of the fender.
Lipstick, meet pig.
Lipstick, meet pig.
Looks great, Philip. Now give that Deere a little love in the front tire! Haha!
Philip Andrews
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Not great, that's gone through to the coat underneath which is a completely different shade of mauve. I don't think the guy mixed the paint before spraying it.
That tire has dry-rotted through. I need to replace it and then rewire the machine. Only cost $50 so I'm not complaining
Philip Andrews
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Gee, that paint was put on badly.
Decided to see if it would hold a gloss, makes the car look a little more cared for.
It's not one single, solid color though. Someone didn't know how to paint metallic paint.
Decided to see if it would hold a gloss, makes the car look a little more cared for.
It's not one single, solid color though. Someone didn't know how to paint metallic paint.
Ripinator
Old Man with a Hat
Regardless Phil, I really like that color.
Philip Andrews
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Agreed, it's a great color. Very mid sixties chic.
Put on right it would be even better. Regardless, the car is going to be crimson.
If you machine polish metalic single stage paint you will get ghosting or tiger stripping.
My thoughts on the engine, you could get a 5.9 magnum and swap your small block front pulley and pump system onto it.
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Philip Andrews
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This had all manner of artifacts in and had the texture of a golf ball.
Anything is better than it was.
5.9 Magnum had crossed my mind, yeah. It's still not off the options list.
Phil
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