For Sale 1970 Plymouth Sport Fury 6pac car

[Fury Pursuit]

I'm sorry but Dan has zero, zip, Nada, for sale but VINs and bragging rights. There are no cars in that pile of steel.
Yes, you can turn that pile of steel into a car and attach assign the VIN to it but you can also rebuild The World Trade Center from an address.
My cousin Haas a fragment of steel about the size of your thumb from the Titanic...

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With all respect to a gentleman whom I do not know, I ask you this.

Have you inspected all three of Mr. Corley's Sport Fury GT Six Barrel cars? Or any of them?

What first hand evidence to YOU have to make the claims that you are making?

Have you personally seen ANY of Mr. Corley's V-code Sport Fury GT cars? Looking at photos on the internet is not material. Have YOU actually seen these cars?

For that matter has anyone on this "forum" seen in person Mr. Corley's Sport Fury GT 6BBL cars?

If you have inspected Dan's V-code GT cars, then please tell us specifics about them. I'd like to know the condition of the stub frame connectors on the Y28 car. Please provide photos and our your notes from your inspection.

Please explain to the community how you have come to your unique conclusion. I'd would like to know how you know so much about Mr. Corley's cars, as it seems you have an insight to their conditions that others in this "community" do not.

Many, many people in the collector car community (which includes and does not include ChryCo. products) take their cars and the restoration and preservation of rare and historical automobiles very, very seriously.
I believe you are less than serious in aforementioned endeavor, and your comments serve you so.

I beg to differ with your unique opinion, and I'm of majority opinion that, Mr. Corley's cars are indeed worthy and worth restoring. There is much more than "a VIN....and a pile of steel", as you expertly state.

It's obvious to all, that you have a personal issue with Mr. Corley, but the cars in and of themselves are separate issue. Please call Dan Corley and beat him up, but leave the cars to Dan and those whom wish to restore them properly,....the people who have the skill and or resources to do so,.... which you clearly do not.

Kindest regards.

 

[saforwardlook]

Mr Fury Pursuit,

With all due respect, have you ever repaired a rust bucket or ever personally even watched it being done and do you really have any idea what you are talking about in that respect when you confidently state that these cars are "indeed worth restoring"? In other words, what credentials do you have to even cross examine Stan with such confidence? If so, please tell me whether you think repairing the A pillars, rear window surrounds, lower quarters, wheel surrounds, floor pans, roof rails, trunk floors, firewall, sills, stub frame attaching points and just about everything else that collects moisture both from the ground and the rain is really repairable such that the overall integrity and durability of the body is even a shadow of its original specification? Please provide your sources of information and describe your engineering background to support your claims with the transcript of your testimony.

Do you really think any of the veterans on this Board really have to have a personal inspection of those particular cars to not be able to see a rust bucket from a mile away when looking at one, and even when Mr. Corley himself says they are "very rusty"? Have you ever personally repaired a car that has been hit in the front hard enough to badly tweak the stub frame and twist the rusty body shell, or even witnessed the work being done?

Quite frankly, you come off as an arrogant arm chair know it all that has watched too many TV lawyer shows (let me guess - Judge Judy is your favorite?) and TV restoration shows and are doing your best to conduct a deposition. Well, you obviously have little experience with vehicle rust repair or in the attorney field. Lawyers never ask questions they don't know the answer to lest they come off as incompetent.

And my phony kindest regards to you too.

 

[Fury Pursuit]

Yes I have. Yes and yes.

By the way, I don't watch TV.

Best regards

 

[saforwardlook]

Really!? Well, maybe we can just move on now to another topic.

Best Regards

 

[66Monacovert]

Maybe Spicoleys dad can fix them, his father is a T.V. repairman, and he has an awsome set of tools...:yaayy:s_dancing2:

 

[polara71]

I beg to differ with your unique opinion, and I'm of majority opinion that, Mr. Corley's cars are indeed worthy and worth restoring. There is much more than "a VIN....and a pile of steel", as you expertly state.

.

You lost all credibility with that statement....

 

[70NPORT]

Somedays I'm supremely thankful I'm just a lowly, sniveling chrysler junky who cares almost nothing about codes, options, hi or low future investment values, blah, blah, blah. Hemi superbird or /6 valiant, all I see is a mopar.

 

[billyfury]

You lost all credibility with that statement....

I share the opinon that they are worthy and worth restoring.

 

[polara71]

We know you do Billy. If you said they didn't it would be like a parent pulling the plug on life support...

 

[detmatt]

I'm betting my '68 RR was in very similar condition to the yellow car and I personally did all of the metalwork without a rebody. Without exposing it to a battery of tests I would say it has all of the structural integrity that it had in '68 and will likely be on the road or is capable of being on the road for as long as there is somebody that wants to drive it. Dan's yellow car is very restorable, what's it worth? I don't know of any comps so it is in fact impossible to say, I guess time will tell.

 

[commando1]

With all respect to a gentleman whom I do not know, I ask you this.

Have you inspected all three of Mr. Corley's Sport Fury GT Six Barrel cars? Or any of them?
None of them.
What first hand evidence to YOU have to make the claims that you are making?
None
Have you personally seen ANY of Mr. Corley's V-code Sport Fury GT cars?
No.
Have YOU actually seen these cars?
No.
If you have inspected Dan's V-code GT cars, then please tell us specifics about them. I'd like to know the condition of the stub frame connectors on the Y28 car. Please provide photos and our your notes from your inspection.
I told you several times already I have not seen the piles of rusty steel personally.
I also have not seen Chernobal personally.
Please explain to the community how you have come to your unique conclusion.
Reality.
I'd would like to know how you know so much about Mr. Corley's cars, as it seems you have an insight to their conditions that others in this "community" do not.
There has been more published on the internet than probably any other Mopar I have seen thank's to Dan's unrelentless marketing. It has been scrutenized, analyzed, and dissected by people far smarter than me.
Many, many people in the collector car community (which includes and does not include ChryCo. products) take their cars and the restoration and preservation of rare and historical automobiles very, very seriously.
Yes they do.
I believe you are less than serious in aforementioned endeavor, and your comments serve you so.
Totally ridiculous and makes zero sense. Reread what you wrote.
I beg to differ with your unique opinion, and I'm of majority opinion that, Mr. Corley's cars are indeed worthy and worth restoring.
"Majority" OK. Sure. You lost you credibility and any argument you can make right there.
There is much more than "a VIN....and a pile of steel", as you expertly state.
Nope. that's all there is.
It's obvious to all, that you have a personal issue with Mr. Corley,
Only his "marketing" methods and many, many times has been caught with his pants down on other stuff he sells.
His selling of the NOS Hemi heads bordered on outright fraud.
I'd still have a beer with him though and I'm sure he was kind to his mother.
but the cars in and of themselves are separate issue.
That's my point.
Please call Dan Corley and beat him up,
No need to. Dan uses the internet incessantly and puts himself out there.
but leave the cars to Dan and those whom wish to restore them properly,....the people who have the skill and or resources to do so,....
And after all these years, not one person has done so. WHY???
which you clearly do not.
Pffffttttttttttttttttttttt. I will never be that stupid to fall for his BS.
Kindest regards.
It is a pleasure to discuss our opinions like gentleman.
I'd buy you AND Dan beers. All on me.

 

[Samplingman]

Dang, all you have to do to get a beer is disagree with Stan?? I here aformentionally disagree with my distingushed colleague from Florida! ccasion14:

(Oh no, I just thanked him, do I still get the beer?)

 

[polara71]

Dang, all you have to do to get a beer is disagree with Stan?? I here aformentionally disagree with my distingushed colleague from Florida! ccasion14:

(Oh no, I just thanked him, do I still get the beer?)

Damn, I would think I am entitled to a Keg of Birch Beer after all I have been through with Stan...ccasion14: on him of course

 

[Fury Pursuit]

Fair enough Sir (Stan), and I will leave it at that.

You buy the beers, and the steak and lobster is on me.

Best regards.

 

[Fury Pursuit]

Maybe Spicoleys dad can fix them, his father is a T.V. repairman, and he has an awsome set of tools...:yaayy:s_dancing2:

It's Spicoli, Doug Spicoli is Jeff's dad. He is my uncle, and dude he does have an awesome set of tools. We can definitely fix it.

 

[saforwardlook]

Sure you guys can. Just don't wash it with a hose and water, or let it sit out in the rain ever, or drive it very much lest it disintegrate before your very eyes. It could be a superb trailer queen for all the world to salivate over. You ought to go and buy it and then show the world what you can do. Then this whole drama might take a respite.

 

[thrashingcows]

Well I'm probably the only board member who has seen at least one of Dan's V-code SFGT in person. I saw the Black/Black junkyard dog many years ago when I went down to Seattle to buy some parts off Dan for my own 70 Sport Fury.

I did not have any issue with Dan, nor do I. He treated me well with the parts that I bought off him, and we spent half the day chatting.

My personal opinion on the Junkyard dog is that it is salvageable...at least it was at that time. The cowl was not visibly bent or twisted, nor was it rustier then my own fury was. The floors had you typical rust out from sitting, and the trunk needed replacing. But I don't recall that the rear frame rails were toast. Really I think once you got that fender and front subframe out of there things would look a lot better.

 

[68plymouth383]

Maybe you guys should start with the z28 camero you wrecked first.

It's Spicoli, Doug Spicoli is Jeff's dad. He is my uncle, and dude he does have an awesome set of tools. We can definitely fix it.

 

[saforwardlook]

Well I'm probably the only board member who has seen at least one of Dan's V-code SFGT in person. I saw the Black/Black junkyard dog many years ago when I went down to Seattle to buy some parts off Dan for my own 70 Sport Fury.

I did not have any issue with Dan, nor do I. He treated me well with the parts that I bought off him, and we spent half the day chatting.

My personal opinion on the Junkyard dog is that it is salvageable...at least it was at that time. The cowl was not visibly bent or twisted, nor was it rustier then my own fury was. The floors had you typical rust out from sitting, and the trunk needed replacing. But I don't recall that the rear frame rails were toast. Really I think once you got that fender and front subframe out of there things would look a lot better.

I don't have a copy at hand of the most recent photos he provided of the black GT, but I recall A pillars that were almost gone, a C pillar and rear window surround that was shredded, and given a rusty floor pan and trunk floor, could the sills be much good either and everything that attaches to them? You don't recall seeing any damage in those areas? Have you actually done frame related repair or rust repair? The problem with rusty cars is that you never realize how much hidden rust is present until you start fixing all the visible stuff. Then it becomes a nightmare as you dig deeper. With the stub frame bent as badly as I recall, maybe you couldn't easily see the bent cowl, but there is some real damage in that area for sure. Unless you have a body guy that you completely trust to do everything as best he can in every case, how many guys can really put up with all that tedious repair and not take some shortcuts - and then those show up a couple years later? The really trustworthy rust repair guys are few and far between but even then their repairs might not hold up either. And there is no way to seal behind some of the welded areas so that moisture collection in those areas is also a concern, and with bondo to cover the repairs, just a slight pinhole will lead to bubbling.

I still wonder how excited I would feel at seeing one of these cars restored at a car show when I know that there is a patchwork quilt of a body present and not even the original engine is there either? And how much would the owner have to keep fixing down the road - how satisfying would that be to him after spending a ton of money for all the repairs in the first place? In the end, anyone at a car show with knowledge of the background of one of these cars would look at it as a recreation of a past dream, with so much of the original metal and drivetrain long gone. But maybe it is worth it to some...............................

 

[thrashingcows]

I don't have a copy at hand of the most recent photos he provided of the black GT, but I recall A pillars that were almost gone, a C pillar and rear window surround that was shredded, and given a rusty floor pan and trunk floor, could the sills be much good either and everything that attaches to them? You don't recall seeing any damage in those areas? Have you actually done frame related repair or rust repair? The problem with rusty cars is that you never realize how much hidden rust is present until you start fixing all the visible stuff. Then it becomes a nightmare as you dig deeper. With the stub frame bent as badly as I recall, maybe you couldn't easily see the bent cowl, but there is some real damage in that area for sure. Unless you have a body guy that you completely trust to do everything as best he can in every case, how many guys can really put up with all that tedious repair and not take some shortcuts - and then those show up a couple years later? The really trustworthy rust repair guys are few and far between but even then their repairs might not hold up either. And there is no way to seal behind some of the welded areas so that moisture collection in those areas is also a concern, and with bondo to cover the repairs, just a slight pinhole will lead to bubbling.

I still wonder how excited I would feel at seeing one of these cars restored at a car show when I know that there is a patchwork quilt of a body present and not even the original engine is there either? And how much would the owner have to keep fixing down the road - how satisfying would that be to him after spending a ton of money for all the repairs in the first place? In the end, anyone at a car show with knowledge of the background of one of these cars would look at it as a recreation of a past dream, with so much of the original metal and drivetrain long gone. But maybe it is worth it to some...............................

I'm going off memories over 10 years old I bet...I have a hard time remembering things a lot more recent. ;) The condition of the car may have been worse then I remember....I just gave it a quick once over. It was not for sale at that time, and I was not interested in buying it. So the condition is more then likely as you state.

But yes I have restored rusty cars. I did a 68 Coronet convertible that required probably 80% of the original sheet metal to be replaced. Front rad support, inner fenders, complete floor boards, and the whole back half of the car from the convertible top bracing back...except the frame rails. So Yes I understand personally, and finacially, what it takes to bring a car back from the dead.

Would I ever do it again...NOPE!! At least not with my current finicial situation. But If I was in a good financial position to resotre one of these cars...I'd do it. I would not have any problem with replacing all that was needed. If the metal work is done properly, and by a skilled metal artist, in the way the manufacturer intended it to be done, then you should have no problem down the road. At least no more then you would from a "Rust free" car that has been slowly deteriorating, and aging.

Remember, Nothing will stay rust free forever. ;)