Is it the picture or is the white wall stripe is wider than 1" wide???
1978 NYB, 392 MILES,For the sceptics.
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richard p jannine
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And, I just backed it out of the garage,for the pics,so its only sitting on the snow/slush/ice,for the moment.
Wow! P51 Manual A/C!
richard p jannine
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i think the whitewalls are 2 inch.
Ripinator
Old Man with a Hat
And thank heaven the car the PO saved was not just another triple pickle green four door sedan. . . Mighty fine!
Samplingman
Old Man with a Hat
I just need to get a handle on the sequence of events here. All of this has been covered in other threads, but it is worth restating. The way I've understood all of this is that a VIN is assigned first. Then the SPD (scheduled production date?) is set. Then the actual Month, Day and Hour (MDH) is printed on the door tag when the car is rolled off the assembly line. It's simplified, but is that correct? Could this one have been the last one ordered, but for some reason ended up on the line ahead of schedule?
richard p jannine
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I would have to assume,the original ordering owner,either worked for,or knew someone,at Chrysler,in THE Chrysler building in Manhattan,judging by existing paperwork.
On current models the sequence is as follows:
Dealer places order and a VON (Vehicle Order Number) is assigned
Once the order passes edit and is tentatively scheduled it will receive a VIN
Next step is firm scheduling and the JIT (Just in time) parts process begins
Next step is Job 1 Scheduled Date to be built ( Not necessarily THE day it WILL be built but likely)
Next step is Gatelined which means the required parts to build the specific order have been allocated and are ready this is the beginning of the build process
Different processes such as Frame shop Paint etc will follow
Once built it goes through inspection
Once it passes inspection it is slated for transport to its final destination. Typically you can go from gatelined to post inspection in a matter of hours. The MDH will be printed on the ID label on the driver side door jamb. If this is how the factory operated back then I would guess that the process would be
SO number assigned by plant once order received (mailed in or teletyped)
VIN assigned without a sequence
Vehicle begins production and is assigned a SPD
Once completed production an ID label with MDH is printed
This is my understanding from the Dealer POV others who have direct factory knowledge may be able to confirm.
Dealer places order and a VON (Vehicle Order Number) is assigned
Once the order passes edit and is tentatively scheduled it will receive a VIN
Next step is firm scheduling and the JIT (Just in time) parts process begins
Next step is Job 1 Scheduled Date to be built ( Not necessarily THE day it WILL be built but likely)
Next step is Gatelined which means the required parts to build the specific order have been allocated and are ready this is the beginning of the build process
Different processes such as Frame shop Paint etc will follow
Once built it goes through inspection
Once it passes inspection it is slated for transport to its final destination. Typically you can go from gatelined to post inspection in a matter of hours. The MDH will be printed on the ID label on the driver side door jamb. If this is how the factory operated back then I would guess that the process would be
SO number assigned by plant once order received (mailed in or teletyped)
VIN assigned without a sequence
Vehicle begins production and is assigned a SPD
Once completed production an ID label with MDH is printed
This is my understanding from the Dealer POV others who have direct factory knowledge may be able to confirm.
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Richard....
All of us here at FCBO greatly appreciate you sharing all of this information on possibly the oldest and possibly the best condition and lowest mileage Formal on the planet.
Please keep the info coming on the car and your sale. Please inform the new buyer about FCBO. We sure would like to meet him and have him as a member here.
The most knowledgeable C-Body people on the planet are here on FCBO.
Thanks!!
All of us here at FCBO greatly appreciate you sharing all of this information on possibly the oldest and possibly the best condition and lowest mileage Formal on the planet.
Please keep the info coming on the car and your sale. Please inform the new buyer about FCBO. We sure would like to meet him and have him as a member here.
The most knowledgeable C-Body people on the planet are here on FCBO.
Thanks!!
I tend to be pedantic about body work. I have to wonder whether anything happened with the passenger door on your car? Even the worst assembly plant work didn't usually yield a passenger door as misaligned as the one on this car (or is the door just not completely shut during this photo?). Do you know if there were any issues with having to repair it in the past or maybe even at a NuCarPrep facility before delivery to the ultimate purchaser? Not trying to detract from an obviously beautiful condition car, but just wondering if there is any history to why this car has such low miles besides the sheer number of cars he owned.
I would also like to hear of what the range of other C body models he had encompassed - slab sides (1965 -1968), fuselage (1969 - 1973) and maybe others besides formals like the one you are selling. And if you know of the various models possibly too, like New Yorker, Imperial, 300, Newport and similar Dodge and Plymouth models too if there were any? This is all very interesting, and thanks for your contributions.
I would also like to hear of what the range of other C body models he had encompassed - slab sides (1965 -1968), fuselage (1969 - 1973) and maybe others besides formals like the one you are selling. And if you know of the various models possibly too, like New Yorker, Imperial, 300, Newport and similar Dodge and Plymouth models too if there were any? This is all very interesting, and thanks for your contributions.
richard p jannine
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richard p jannine
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Hi, Thank you for the compliments. What you see is a factory misalgned fender. I considered straightening it out,but decided to leave it as honest as possible. This car was picked up at the factory,by the po,not at a dealer. it is unmolested,except for the guys on the line,putting it together.I saw this collection first hand,and all I can say,is,from 65 to 78,any c body Plymouth,or Chrysler you can think of,was in it. off the top of my head;65 300 convertible,67 imperial conv. 67 fury 1 unmarked cop car,73 imperial,76 imperial,t&c wagons,hurst cars,4 speed cars. you get the idea. I think the only thing that put an end to him driving any and all of these,I suppose,was age. I was told this car was the last one built,therefore,kept in pristine,low miles condition,but could not confirm until today.
richard p jannine
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the door is not closed compleetly in the pic,sorry for any confusion.
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
Yeah, I was gonna say....
I'm not a tag decoder guy, so is this a silver car with black trim?
Is there a prize for noticing the Imperial hood ornament?
Dear Mr Jannine,
This is the second time you repost your original post.
As you can see, you’ve piqued a lot of interest.
But, your lack of any pictures, difficulty in contacting you (by providing no phone number in the ad), lack of pictures there and interesting choice of advertising strategy for such a high priced and admittedly unique car, make us all a little skeptical.
Your repeating of your original post.... well that’s just odd.
If you joined this forum just to sell and perhaps add value to your sale.... I’m sorry, but you’re not helping yourself here.
I will email you at the CL listed email to see if I can help you.
Here is the email I just sent:
“Dear Mr Jannine,
Very interested in seeing your car. My phone number is 786 493 XXXX. This is my cell number. Please feel free to text me.
I am an FCBO member and would like to help you publish some pictures of your car to aid the forum in its building of information regarding these great cars.
I also own a 78 New Yorker Brougham and am also interested in helping you increase interest and value in these unique last of their kind cars.
Thank you,
Javier Salman. “
I look forward to your reply
Sincerely,
Javier Salman.
TNTrooper428
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What's odd about the condition of this fender tag?
MarPar
Meat Man with a Hat
Richard, I am so happy that you actually came on this board and are trying to set the record straight for your NYer.
Bravo!
I would like to ask you a question if I may...and please forgive me if I missed it, but was this car inside when the PO had it? I would assume so.
Bravo!
I would like to ask you a question if I may...and please forgive me if I missed it, but was this car inside when the PO had it? I would assume so.
LeBaron1973
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If Javier would look at post 31 there is the first photo of the car, followed by other various images which seem to validate the claim of 392 miles, and it's certainly one of the last cars built, whether the missing production data ever surfaces or is lost forever.
It seems to me that all that can be said with certainty is that the last C -Body was built in late June 1978. Hopefully some data (currently unknown) was preserved and will one day be located.
The original owner seemingly just collected cars straight from the factory and with minimal use, stored them away.
I recently watched a Musclecar of the week YouTube video about a mustang with 5 miles, originally owned by a dealer who took the vehicles off the truck and stored them away, not even doing dealer preparation, so this mopar guy must have had similar ideas.
It seems to me that all that can be said with certainty is that the last C -Body was built in late June 1978. Hopefully some data (currently unknown) was preserved and will one day be located.
The original owner seemingly just collected cars straight from the factory and with minimal use, stored them away.
I recently watched a Musclecar of the week YouTube video about a mustang with 5 miles, originally owned by a dealer who took the vehicles off the truck and stored them away, not even doing dealer preparation, so this mopar guy must have had similar ideas.
richard p jannine
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As for the fender tag question; I cant say for sure,but it appears that a second tag was there. it would only seem likely to me, that it indicated "special handling", or some other type of directive, has been liberated. I believe this happened during the course of liquidation of the rest of the cars. I can only guess...... this car has always been inside,seeing the light of day only a few time ever.
